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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 05:05pm Jul 2, 2003 EST (# 12813 of 12818)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Sometimes - in the presence of umpires - facts really do speak for themselves

- -

And feelings for what is beautiful speak to us, too.

rshow55 - 10:19pm Jul 2, 2003 EST (# 12814 of 12818)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

rshow55 - 04:30am May 29, 2003 EST (# 12148 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.cwXtbLOcmMb.61647@.f28e622/13785

Harry Truman - and "the buck stops here."

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BuckStopsHere

Responsibility isn't just a key matter for the President of the United States. Right or wrong - as a matter of fact it has often been true that in the news business, in the United States "the buck stops with The New York Times ."

When the NYT won't face things - there can be real losses. This thread hasn't been "a casual matter" for people involved for a long time. The TIMES knows some of the people involved - and something about the stakes.

I started New Years day on this board with 7177 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.cwXtbLOcmMb.61647@.f28e622/8700

" I think this is a year where some lessons are going to have to be learned about stability and function of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of order , symmetry , and harmony - at the levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly enough to produce systems that have these properties by design, not by chance."

Learning is hard - and maybe that's working out. But these are dangerous times. Stakes are high enough that checking to closure is important.

Does the NYT ever think it has a responsibility for that?

Maybe.

On the fragility of US power - notes from William Safire http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2100.htm

With the stakes as they are, is jealousy so important?

http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap10/chap10k.htm

Or even very justified?

11735-37 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.cwXtbLOcmMb.61647@.f28e622/13345

I've been working hard to satisfy requests and instuctions from high officers of state - with some success, it seems to me: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee9cff9/2379

" Facts, when they are clear, have a way of influencing decisions, in the complexly articulated world.

That influence can be healing: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1345

rshow55 - 10:32pm Jul 2, 2003 EST (# 12815 of 12818)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Lchic and I are partners http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@.ee79f4e/228 and we work creatively - in an interaction that I believe, and I think she believes, is beautiful .

and we're nice people

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/231"

The people I want near

when night falls

are the nice:

. . . by PETER GOLDSWORTHY

And the work we've done, with luck - may save too many lives to count - and make life better.

Maybe even make some money. Making money is such an American , such a Republican thing to do !

rshow55 - 10:34pm Jul 2, 2003 EST (# 12816 of 12818)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/228

We announce ourselves . . . she then He . . . formalities over . . . ease back . . . talk

and

talk

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