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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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gisterme - 04:22am Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12721 of 12734)

I wish robkettenburg03 would get a life.

lchic - 04:58am Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12722 of 12734)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

... a different life ...

lchic - 06:32am Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12723 of 12734)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Pop Popped to Iraq (?) GU Talk

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.4a9157f2

fredmoore - 10:58am Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12724 of 12734)

"Hear Ye ... if ears reach out to listen ... why then not assume that minds reach out to Learn Ye ... 'learning' is key. (re fredmoore above) "

Well ... say around 5% of students fit that bill and want to learn.

What about the rest who are caught in the system?

They are the ones who need good, motivated, well paid ( IE happening) teachers. They are the ones that are easily distracted by media hype if not given the inspiration of good teachers.

Being blinkered and not looking at the whole system will inevitably lead to confusion. If people want improvements in the US educational system, start at the TOP and give teachers the salary and funding to get on with the job and get beyond the 'alligators' snapping at their creative energies.

Dr. Frederick Von Frankenstein.

Suite 2, level 8, 305 Pitch st Sydney.

lchic - 02:24pm Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12725 of 12734)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The question that comes out of the above FVF is

What is it about the Edu-Sys that switches kids to OFF?
  • competitive aspect -- only 5% see themselves as succeeding
  • failure to re-enforce sucessful individual-edu-skills-growth
  • failure to dove-tail Edu-Experience with real world
  • minds not knowing where they will later 'fit' in the general system
  • need for a teen-work-edu-system that's both in-out of classroom
  • total underfunding of Edu-System

lchic - 03:00pm Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12726 of 12734)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Rummy moves along the chaos-culture order symmetry harmony continuum

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,986881,00.html

""At a dinner in Washington last week, Mr Rumsfeld told defence industry leaders: "I am interested in the idea of our leading, or contributing to in some way, a cadre of people in the world who would like to participate in peacekeeping or peacemaking.

"I think it would be a good thing if our country was to provide some leadership for training of other countries' citizens who would like to participate in peacekeeping ... so that we have a ready cadre of people who are trained and equipped and organised and have communications [so] that they can work with each other."

The US military's effort to keep the peace in Iraq after the official end of the conflict looks increasingly unstable. A rash of attacks on US and British troops has pointed to growing disaffection among Iraqis, while looting and sabotage continue to damage efforts to get the nation back on its feet.

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[Couldn't baghdad-bob-comic-ali assit you guys with a little positive marketing ;) .... 'suprised a cartoon-comic-ali hasn't taken a contract 'I was the joker in the pack' with an ad agency as yet ]

lchic - 03:08pm Jun 28, 2003 EST (# 12727 of 12734)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Changing culture .... the National-inmates have to want change ... have see the value of change (better futures dept) ... have to be involved and work with the process of change.

The reason why the US can't 'go in and put democracy in place' is because the cultures are

archaic ....
  • How were cultural changes implemented historically?
  • How and why did nations move to modernise?
  • What educational (mind-changing) processes were undertaken?
  • Who could assist in fast tracking process
  • If dollars or prizes are available how best might they entice minds enmass to have a futuristic view rather than pervese-historic

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