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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 03:34am Jun 26, 2003 EST (# 12689 of 12715)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The fact regarding energy is it comes costed at different prices ... there's the holistic aspect of what happens to the aspects too often left out of the equation ... and there's the cost per kwUnit.

The truth about Nuclear Energy is that the above has rarely been disclosed --- but the UK government had no private buyers for it's plants .... because the longterm negatives are never-ending.

In a competitive world where energy is a costed factor of production --- those nations with 'right-priced energy' are at an advantage in the global markets.

[As seen in horticulture --- most days of natural sunshine - zones have advantage | so too in energy heavy processing]

  • The question is how can large scale - right-priced energy be obtained?
  • Is it in the domaine of ONE Nation State or a collective of Nations working together?

    As yet another 1:100 year weather:storm occurence wipes people out - there's the question of how to stabalise energy flows.

    gisterme - 05:50am Jun 26, 2003 EST (# 12690 of 12715)

    lchic - 03:34am Jun 26, 2003 EST (# 12689 of ...) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.wEZ0b1YKkab.0@3e7bb3@.f28e622/14357

    "...The fact regarding energy is it comes costed at different prices ..."

    Unfortunately, most of us poor energy consumers here in the US are only hooked-up to a single set of utilities so we don't have much option to choose among "differently costed" energy prices. Maybe it's different elsewhere. :-) In some places we do have that option at the gas pump.

    "...there's the holistic aspect of what happens to the aspects too often left out of the equation ... and there's the cost per kwUnit..."

    The holistic aspect of what happens to the aspects too often left out of the equation? Huh??? What aspects would those be, lchic? What happens to them? I'd really like to know.

    Which do you think is the larger-scale "aspect", lchic, the holistic or the kWUnit?

    rshow55 - 08:49am Jun 26, 2003 EST (# 12691 of 12715)
    Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

    gisterme , it is great to have you. Had a good trip to California - though a personally charged one.

    Maybe I can respond a bit about "wholistic" aspects of energy production (and global warming control). We ought to solve these problems - and in a real sense, that's possible now .

    There are times when I agree - partly - with the Bush administration - and it could be taking very good steps - steps compatible with really optimal solutions - about both energy (which in the end needs to involve a lot of hydrogen) and global warming. Both problems that need simple solutions - solved well and on the proper scale.

    The word "proper" is a problem. On the plane back from San Francisco, spent some time reading Lettita Baldridge's Complete Guide to Executive Manners ( Ms. Baldridge was Jackie Kennedy's chief of Staff - and especially chief of protocol). And "propriety" is a problem when the solutions are large scale. "Good manners" and "protocol" and "politics as usual" and "national security concerns" can easily stand like iron bars - stopping change - and substituting "perfumed stagnation" for hope. These good things need not stand in the way of hope - but often do.

    Sometimes, the solutions have to be identified and implemented on scales where "proprieties" stand in the way. Eisenhower worried about that. I'll be back after I read the last 90 postings or so.

    mazza9 - 11:25am Jun 26, 2003 EST (# 12692 of 12715)
    "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

    The Space University Proposal would be funded from education funds which are local. As the funding exceeds NASA's budget we will wrest control of the space program from NASA. There is pent up entrepreneurial energy which can propel the Space University and eventually the whole High Frontier movement.

    The person who invented the PayPal system sold his business to E-Bay for $1.5 Billion. Unlike Mark Cuban who took his funds and bought the Dallas Mavericks, this individual is building a two stage satellite launcher. He is offering LEO satellite launch services at $10 Million which has caught NASA attention because it will be "cheap" for the orbit height and weight. Burt Rutan is on a clip to win the X-Prize and other "inventors" are hard at work. It was reported in Aviation Week a month or so ago that a rocket company in Colorado has developed an areospike nozzle whcih could increase thrust by 30%!

    Beale Aerospace was on a track to do this but its founder and funder had to pull the plug becasue NASA kept getting in the way!

    Why educational funding? There are two high school stadiums in the whole world that have diamondvision stadium screens! There both in the Mesquite Texas ISD and my daughter is a part of the Marching band that performs under these beauties. If we can fund these types of facilities then Space University should be a go. NOW! If Congress recognizes the wealth to be created in space then they don't have to provide any funds. Just grant tax free status to all profits generated in space and watch what happens.

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