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jorian319
- 08:39am Jun 20, 2003 EST (#
12612 of 12690)
Jorian -- expose yourself
I love it when you talk dirty.
--- To the world
To the world I am but another number among the oprressed
masses.
Who are you?
Use the internet, Luna. You already have enough information
to find out.
lchic
- 07:27pm Jun 20, 2003 EST (#
12613 of 12690) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
'another number'
.... binary .... Binary Ape .... no that's
BARB-ary Ape .... not worth an 'apeth .... poor value for
money .... cheap at the price ... bargain hunter .... big
game hunter .... Tarzan ... 'G'-rated .... sepia .... former
glory ... junior ... chimp-off-the-old-block .... delivery
... mail-man ..... ah! ... I've got it .... you're .....
[drum roll] ....
'The Poster!!'
lchic
- 07:41pm Jun 20, 2003 EST (#
12614 of 12690) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Over the last month, the two military dictatorships in
south-east Asia, Burma and the Indonesian province of Aceh,
have been the region's two main news stories. This has
followed, respectively, the detention of the Burmese
pro-democracy leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, and the start of
military operations to crush the Aceh separatists, the Free
Aceh Movement (Gam).
On a wider level, the two are completely different. The
former is ruled by an illegitimate junta that terrorises and
represses both democratically-elected politicians, who are not
allowed to govern, and ethnic minorities, while he latter is
under military rule after the government lost patience with
failing negotiations. It is acting within its rights.
To that end, comparing them is an apples and oranges
exercise, and so would, for the most part, be unfair. However,
there are a few common themes that are interesting to note.
Led by the US, global condemnation of the Rangoon generals'
actions has been so strong that even Burma's neighbours in the
Association of South-East Asian Nations (Asean), felt
compelled to interfere in a member state's internal affairs
for just about the first time ever.
Earlier this week, they issued a statement calling for the
immediate release of Ms Suu Kyi and her National League for
Democracy colleagues. But even this, let alone the
Washington-orchestrated western foot-stamping, is unlikely to
resonate that greatly amongst the junta because India and,
more especially, China, are remaining silent.
In an interview this week, Burma's foreign minister, Win
Aung, said that his government took the criticism seriously.
But he gave the game away in his next sentence when he said:
"Gradually, it will stop."
Senior General Than Shwe and his cohorts must be green with
envy at what the Indonesian armed forces, from whom much of
the Burmese army's structural organisation, particularly the
ubiquitous village-level presence, is copied, are getting away
with.
It includes the systematic execution of Acehense, with only
occasional half-hearted and laughable investigations into
allegations of abuse; the forcible relocation of whole
villages to ill-equipped camps; the detention and virtual
disappearance of students and human rights activists, and the
public intimidation and threatening of the Red Cross, the
national human rights commission and the local media for doing
their jobs properly.
And there is more: the appointment of retired military
officers to replace civilian officials who are allegedly too
scared to continue working. The banning of all virtually all
foreigners. The list goes on.
The global reaction to all this? Amnesty International,
Human Rights Watch and other similar organisations have shown
commendable concern. However, as far as the diplomatic front
is concerned, activity has been conspicuous by its absence.
Many embassies say that they are raising Aceh at every
available opportunity in private, but that it is unfair to
chastise Jakarta in public when things are not as bad as they
might be.
How do they know that when they are not allowed in to
investigate and most of their non-governmental contacts are in
hiding or have fled for their own safety? Well, they're
reading the newspapers and watching television.
This is remarkably naive, considering the immense pressure
that the local media is under to toe the nationalist line: the
Indonesian military has successfully incorporated George
Bush's "You're either with us or against us" mantra into page
one of its media relations manual. In other words, the
military has done an excellent job of stemming the information
flow out of the war zone.
Privately, diplomats admit they don't really know what is
happening. But until something tangible occurs, like an
organisation such as the National Human Rights Commission
producing a solid report of abuses or a tide of refugees emerg
fredmoore
- 07:43pm Jun 20, 2003 EST (#
12615 of 12690)
Gee, Pugsley and Morticia never argued in the Addams
Family.
I think Jorian needs stronger dynamite caps for the train
set and Lchic ... its time for Cleopatra's feeding.
Shoot 'em in the back!!
Seeing how Buck made someone else cousin IT I guess I'll
have to be uncle Fester.
Urrrrr Awwwww .... Mail's in ... why thank you thing!
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