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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:36am Jun 9, 2003 EST (# 12424 of 12430)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Repression - in a psychological sense - is a big problem. (Search repression. ) and propaganda and bias are, too. Fredmoore's 12408 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f28e622/14061 relates to that.

Missile Defense #9742 - http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f28e622/11285

Repression - and unconscious things, active and at some level known - but unconscious or denied, are a source of problems. A number of cites from this thread on the NYT magazine article Repress Yourself , especially connected to the shuttle matter, have been set out on the thread devoted to Slater's article

114 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f39a52e/114 to 126 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f39a52e/126 Another source of problems, that I think matters in the Iraq matter - with our problems with radical Islam, and with our problems with North Korea, involve problems of paradigm conflict including automatic and unconscious perceptual processing.

A classic experiment is described in THE STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTIONS 2nd Ed

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10798 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f28e622/12350 reads in part::

Almarst , lchic and I have been very concerned with problems of press function for a long time. (This piece, written when I had the misapprehension that almarst was connected to Putin, is nevertheless a good summary.) http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm

We've discussed many of the problems in terms of Weaver's News and the Culture of Lying 5943-44 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f28e622/7390

Here's http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm , with its main links working , and other links available by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm - - (more)

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Problems with propaganda - not only in the US, but here too - are so serious and endemic - and all the press is complicit - definitely including the New York Times. Involvement from leaders - including leaders from nation states - may be necessary to get some "obvious" things dealt with that badly need to be.

If the right to lie is not constrained - and the right to check is effectively denied whenever anyone of power objects - or if checking is simply never done - we're in messes that can't be solved.

rshow55 - 08:36am Jun 9, 2003 EST (# 12425 of 12430)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Attack On The Ad-Man by A.S.J. Tessimond. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.vkdkbnYVeai.56625@.f28e622/7061 starts

This trumpeter of nothingness, employed . . . To keep our reason dull and null and void.

The ad man has been "attacking" so long, in so many ways - that everything that matters enough bears some thought about checking - for reasons of safety, and honor, too.

Problems of distortion are getting in the way of our prosperity and survival all over the world

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