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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:18am Jun 8, 2003 EST (# 12398 of 12402)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Section on Empathy begins here (16 related posts) : 5086 lchic 10/20/02 7:50pm http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.oaClbDb0e5g.878866@.f28e622/6403

empathy and diplomacy: 5103 lchic 10/20/02 11:51pm http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.oaClbDb0e5g.878866@.f28e622/6422

. . .

Empathy is basic - everybody really knows what it feels like to be lied to - and to have things mess up because you believe the lies.

Everybody should also be able to imagine some of my feelings of frustration, and helplessness - under house arrest in most ways that actually matter to a human being.

. . .

We need to have force available, ask for change, and respond so that it has a chance to occur.

lchic - 09:39am Jun 8, 2003 EST (# 12399 of 12402)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Change

'Making people part of the solution rather than part of the problem.' http://www.dhutton.com/change/chresist.html http://www.dhutton.com/change/

http://www.cce.cornell.edu/programs/diversity/chgagt.htm

http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/cans/default.htm

http://www.babsoninsight.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/570

rshow55 - 11:08am Jun 8, 2003 EST (# 12400 of 12402)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I'm very proud of what I wrote in Psychwarfare, Casablanca, and terror - - and I would have been very proud to have either Eisenhower read it - especially the part I posted on Sep 26-27, 2000, and especially the part from #21 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/20 on, including this basic point:

. The only way to fix up the relation between Elsa and Rick, so they can stay sane, is a recapitulation of what happened. · ***

--------------------------- (#23 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/22

. . . | "I also think that we Americans should feel sorry for the mess we've made after the fall of the Soviet Union, when our warmaking should have stopped, and we should extend some helping hands, in effective ways, to help Russia heal.

All the while taking down nuclear weapons as fast as we can.

(#24 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/23

There is a problem. The policies that won the Cold War were not pursued with the informed consent of the American people, or of most American politicians.

. . .

Problem is, this shadow government somehow, never shut down, and in many ways we've gone right on fighting the Cold War, after it ought to have been over.

Which gets back to a point made before, and deferred, about how to deal with institutions built to conceal and defend lies. America has some institutions like that. They stand in the way of peace. They also stand in the way of more efficient operation of American society, and much more efficient operation of the rest of the world.

. . .

I make statements about negotiation that I discussed in detail with D. D. Eisenhower, and deal with some things that happened after he died in #25 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/24

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