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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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fredmoore
- 11:19pm Jun 4, 2003 EST (#
12311 of 12341)
Buck ...
Does our Kiki find Alarmist ... palatable or ....
unpalatable?
Hmmm!
Sic em Kiki!
It's so nice to have a Komodo around the house:
Leaders of seven key Komodo groups held an emergency
meeting today on the decision by BBBuck, the head of the
Komodo occupation authority in USSuburbia, to select between
25 and 30 Komodos to serve on an interim political council
whose powers would largely be limited to eating forumites on
the basis of policy issues and nominating Komodos to serve in
senior positions in government ministries. The organizations
refrained from issuing a joint condemnation of Alarmist's
posts because they hope to persuade him to change course, but
some of the groups made it clear they disapproved of this
decision as they wished to invite him to lunch instead.
CC A A Milne.
....D D Eisenhower
....Milton Freeman
....W Casey
....J M Keynes
.....E A Poe
.....S Clemens
.....C Dickens
rshow55
- 07:56am Jun 5, 2003 EST (#
12312 of 12341) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
great, Fredmoore !
I'd add a cc to Thomas Edison, maybe, too.
Sometimes, you not only have to "make the best of the
situation" in human terms - you need to change it.
Sometimes "mundane" things - like technical solutions -
matter. And sometimes there really are some "iron logics" that
"dictate" what reasonable or optimal solutions can be.
A lot of progress is possible, it seems to me. Including a
lot that would go a long way towards adressing
Almarst's core concerns - of which this seems to me the
most fundamental - Almarst feels that you have to
take care of people - and feels that neither capitalism,
or American power, do that decently.
Which is partly true - partly false.
There's a lot of progress possible, I think. Some of it
"contradictory". Talking, communicating, sorting out are
essential. Fighting is to be avoided. Except that sometimes -
things have to be resolved - and at one level or another, for
sufficient reasons, with enough controls, "there has to be a
fight."
rshow55
- 07:58am Jun 5, 2003 EST (#
12313 of 12341) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Superb stuff! The Times is saying the "obvious" things that
need saying - and, seems to me, covering them well.
Mideast Leaders Look Homeward By JAMES BENNET http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/05/international/middleeast/05MIDE.html
AQABA, Jordan, June 4 — Locked in conflict,
fearing for their very existence as nations, Israelis and
Palestinians have for generations prized national unity,
deferring or papering over internal disputes about the means
and ends of their struggles.
But before even hoping to end the conflict
with each other, each side must first face up to these
conflicts within itself, according to the iron logic of a
new international peace plan. Today, President Bush secured
commitments from Ariel Sharon, the Israeli prime minister,
and Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian prime minister, to begin
doing just that.
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Confronting Mideast Spoilers http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/05/opinion/05THU1.html
One of the most distressing elements of the
conflict between Israelis and Palestinians has been the
self-centered way in which each side has viewed the dispute.
The Israelis have insisted on their need for security
without acknowledging the damage their West Bank settlement
program has done, while the Palestinians have focused on
lost land and personal suffering as they dismiss the ruinous
impact of their terrorist attacks. Neither side has even
seemed to try to grasp how the other feels.
That is why yesterday's meeting of President
Bush and the Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers in the
Jordanian resort of Aqaba was a powerful omen of potential
change. As President Bush told reporters afterward: "The
prime minister of the Palestinian Authority talked about the
suffering of the Jewish people. The prime minister of Israel
talked about a Palestinian state." What may set the current
peace effort apart from previous failed attempts is the
insistence that each leader face the concerns of the other
by coming to terms with his own peace spoilers.
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