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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:18pm Jun 2, 2003 EST (# 12282 of 12287)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

To permit me to work - no checking might be necessary, at first.

I could make PowerPoint presentations - and have them checked for sensitivity.

I'll be working on the assumption that something very roughly along the lines described above can be made to work - consistent with reasonable interests involved.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1224_1230.htm Mar 21, 2001 sets out the lyrics to Ruby Tuesday and includes this:

"We are making crazy decisions, that may destroy the world, and that are very, very ugly, because we can't find the grace to be honest about some basic things that were done, and some things left undone.

"I have some similar needs myself. I made a deal, with my country, that gave me a great deal -- all I had to do, was find a way to be "Ruby Tuesday" -- there is no way. You need a past.

8827 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.nGByb98mdAH.0@.f28e622/10354

Of course it is necessary - inescapable that we must move into the future. And there are reasons for what has happened. But what was said and done matters - because it shapes the decisions that are possible in the future - and for reasons of justice. 'You Lied to Us" by William Safire http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/02/opinion/02SAFI.html

When complicated decisions have to be made correctly and stably - truth is our best hope.

bbbuck - 01:40pm Jun 2, 2003 EST (# 12283 of 12287)

On May 21, 1977 I dutifully and gratefully set out the details of the komodo dragon mating habits and territorial markings and range habitats.

These details and facts can be cross-checked and co referenced at the following website

http://check-this-you-mother/komodos-are-pretty.com

After checking my facts and cooridinates I am planning a party to celebrate another komodo fact checking session.

All missile defense brothers are invited.

lchic - 05:13am Jun 3, 2003 EST (# 12284 of 12287)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

""Welcome, lchic""

is the NYT message i get when i sign in here

fredmoore - 07:46am Jun 3, 2003 EST (# 12285 of 12287)

Buck ....

If people looked at all the interlocking things on this thread that could be checked - - and checked some of them - - we could have a safer world for the komodo - for reasons that might be insane - but reasons that would make us safer and more decent than we are today.

"Checking isn't easy, for anything complicated, where motivations for deception and reasons to doubt statements exist. But what are the costs of not checking the komodo dragons under discussion here?

If there was enough interest for some interested party to hire a detective to check komodos more completely - I'd be glad and for reasons that really matter, and for reasons that are sometimes ugly but sometimes beautiful also.

Of course it is necessary - inescapable - that we must move into the future. And there are reasons for what has happened. But what was said and done re the komodos, matters - because it shapes the decisions that are possible in the future - and for reasons of justice, when complicated decisions have to be made correctly and stably - truth is the komodo's best hope.

I'll be working on the assumption that something very roughly along the lines described above can be made to work - consistent with reasonable interests involved and therefore as an MD brother I accept your invitation to the party to celebrate another komodo fact checking session.

Sincerely

Fredmoore

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