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rshow55
- 07:41am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12027 of 12046) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
In 11996 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.tcoibMT4bw6.1943184@.f28e622/13621
Almarst asks
Who is to say the US ought to respect ANY
government? Or LAW for that matter?
search "renegotiation"
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If Americans are being agressive and distrustful in their
relationships with the Arab world - there are some reasons.
Almarst - you're making important contributions that
I appreciate now. But what do you want me personally (or the
Bush administration) to actually do that I or they can
reasonably do?
I think that the treaty of Westphalia is long gone - and
should be. And if the Iraqi was showed some bad things about
the US, as well as good and powerful things - surely it did -
the military and personal behavior of the Iraqi people shows a
good deal about the limits of reasonable trust and negotiation
dealing with many in the Islamic world.
How many Americans want to take the slightest risk
"trusting" the decency of such people? Why should they.
If you quote "national sovereignty" most Americans would
just shrug - and dealing with the regimes we're confronting -
I just don't acknowledge their legitimacy - and don't think
many Americans really do.
almarst2002
- 07:42am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12028 of 12046)
Howard government blocks release of Australians from
Guantanamo Bay - http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/guan-m26.shtml
THE ENEMY OF MY BOSS IS MY ENEMY!
almarst2002
- 07:46am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12029 of 12046)
"If you quote "national sovereignty" most Americans
would just shrug - and dealing with the regimes we're
confronting - I just don't acknowledge their legitimacy - and
don't think many Americans really do."
Most Germans shruged the same way not that long time ago.
As did all past emipres and agressors.
May be that's one of the fundumental laws of life on this
planet. With all the familiar consequences.
rshow55
- 07:46am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12030 of 12046) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
If you can't talk to people - and they really threaten you
- then the "law of the jungle" is reasonable.
The US, for all its faults - does a good deal of work to
get above the law of the jungle.
But US leaders are not of much mind to risk Americans - or
western culture - to the "islamists" who you're so concerned
with.
Or the leaders of N. Korea.
Why should they be terribly concerned? They've read, and
taken seriously, what these people have said about us. Why on
earth shouldn't we kill them - it that's the only reasonable
way to avoid real injury from them.
We owe them considerably less than nothing by now.
I'm for peacemaking - but peace is one alternative among a
number.
Americans remember all the chanting of "death to
America."
Why not death to Islamic zealots?
lchic
- 07:46am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12031 of 12046) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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The power of one
Weak nations will succumb to American ambition unless we
insist on respecting sovereignty
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,963380,00.html
lchic
- 07:48am May 26, 2003 EST (#
12032 of 12046) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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""Why not death to Islamic zealots?
? Aren't these guys alrady dead - in the head ?
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