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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 06:35am May 17, 2003 EST (# 11735 of 11738)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Standards

How to demonstrate that the 'standards' of terror aren't glorious - that's the current world problem -- and set this within their own cultural framework.

How can indoctrinated minds be 'normalised'?

rshow55 - 09:10am May 17, 2003 EST (# 11736 of 11738)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

It might help if we cleaned up our own act.

And remembered our promises.

I have some personal feelings about keeping promises. A major problem, for me, is that I can't keep promises I made in good faith, on important things - because I've been betrayed - left to die.

I think a lot of people in underdeveloped countries - both leaders and people farther down - have similar feelings - for some pretty good reasons. Not that there aren't "extenuating circumstances." But a lot of people have some very good reasons to have reservations about the "honor" of the West - and of the United States government - and of the press - including the New York Times.

I think a lot of American workers - ordinary citizens, have some reason to feel betrayed, as well.

I think the Eisenhowers would have seen reasons for such feelings - and so would most of the people anywhere close to the founding of the United Nations.

I'm glad that gisterme posted 11723 after may postings 11721-22 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.VktXa7dCaJG.0@.f28e622/13331 , though his http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.VktXa7dCaJG.0@.f28e622/13333 didn't respond to my 11721-22. I hope he read 11721-22.

I don't think the hopes expressed in Secular Redemption http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1345 are inappropriate to repeat here.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.VktXa7dCaJG.0@.f28e622/3237

Quite often, truth is our only hope.

rshow55 - 09:35am May 17, 2003 EST (# 11737 of 11738)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I would like to be able to set up something very much like AEA again - and do it honestly - and work with Lchic in that format.

I'd like to be able to do that with people involved in AEA fully informed, and satisfied to the extent that was reasonably possible.

In ways that were reasonably satisfactory to my wife, her husband, the New York Times, other members of families involved, the federal government, and other people more-or-less connected. In ways that most people at the UN, if they happened to notice, might think fair.

I think, under the circumstances, that it might be particularly good if I could proceed on a basis senior people at Deutsche Bank Securities would think honorable, workable, and fair.

I've been trying to "play it straight" for a very long time.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/ScienceInTheNewsJan4_2000.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/ToE_H_E_G_P_M_xd.html

http://www.mrshowalter.net/Safire_SpookAwardsNRequestXd.html

http://www.mrshowalter.net/etterToDeutscheBankSecuritiesXd.html

Bragg contact http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?14@192.DbxgaORTUHW^1265093@.f28e622/5785

http://www.mrshowalter.net/Burke_Jun16.htm

If the requests involved were awkward, the circumstances were awkward, too.

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