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gisterme
- 05:31pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11222 of 11232)
How interesting to watch the jubilation in the streets of
Baghdad! To see Saddam's monuments pulled down before the
cheering throngs! Some of the scenes of joy on Iraqi people's
faces (as they showered US Marines with flowers) brought to
mind similar scenes from the liberation of France during WWII.
How ironic that the French now find themselves being the
principal supporter of this brutal dictator. I don't think
that anything the French, Germans, Russians or Chinese can say
now will make the liberated Iraqi people think better of them.
After all those governments' support of Saddam, no matter what
they say to the new Iraqi government now, it will make them
seem like hypocrites or charlatans.
It looks as if the liberation of Iraq has gone even better
than I'd hoped! I appologize for being unable to visualize the
real best case scenario! Isn't it a great thing when
the best case scenario and reality are the same thing?
I think it is.
Do you feel very smart right now, almarst? :-)
May liberated Iraq live long and prosper!
jorian319
- 05:48pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11223 of 11232)
I share your elation - very reservedly, gisterme.
It is truly a joy to see our young people in uniform
getting well-earned thanks and enjoying a small opportunity to
share the joy of the fruit of their labors.
The French have cretienly (sp intentional) painted
themselves into an uncomfortable corner, and now will probably
lose all those oil contracts they had with Saddam to boot. The
Germans, Russians et. al. still have their semi-credible
fallbacks as rationale for their positions, but I think French
credibility is toast - no pun intended.
The silence from alarmst today is deafening. I figure that
by tomorrow he will have divined some of the same downside
that I see coming from the current situation. Scary times lie
ahead, for our people in Iraq, and for the Iraqi people.
rshow55
- 06:00pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11224 of 11232) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
We have some smiles, and smiles count - especially if they
last:
Come the Revolution By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/opinion/02FRIE.html
"To read the Arab press is to think that the
entire Arab world is enraged with the U.S. invasion of Iraq,
and to some extent that's true. But here's what you don't
read: underneath the rage, there is also a grudging,
skeptical curiosity — a curiosity about whether the
Americans will actually do what they claim and build a new,
more liberal Iraq.
. . .
. . .I spent this afternoon with the
American studies class at Cairo University. The professor,
Mohamed Kamel, summed up the mood: "In 1975, Richard Nixon
came to Egypt and the government turned out huge crowds.
Some Americans made fun of Nixon for this, and Nixon
defended himself by saying, `You can force people to go out
and welcome a foreign leader, but you can't force them to
smile.' Maybe the Iraqis will eventually stop resisting you.
But that will not make this war legitimate. What the U.S.
needs to do is make the Iraqis smile. If you do that, people
will consider this a success."
There is a lot riding on that smile, Mr.
Kamel added, because this is the first "Arab-American war."
This is not about Arabs and Israelis. This is about America
getting inside the Arab world — not just with its power or
culture, but with its ideals. It is a war for what America
stands for. "If it backfires," Mr. Kamel concluded, "if you
don't deliver, it will really have a big impact. People will
not just say your policies are bad, but that your ideas are
a fake, you don't really believe them or you don't know how
to implement them."
but
Hold Your Applause By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/opinion/09FRIE.html
America broke Iraq; now America owns Iraq,
and it owns the primary responsibility for normalizing it.
If the water doesn't flow, if the food doesn't arrive, if
the rains don't come and if the sun doesn't shine, it's now
America's fault. We'd better get used to it, we'd better
make things right, we'd better do it soon, and we'd better
get all the help we can get.
If Tony Blair is given some discretion - he is "holding
some cards" now - and maybe some good things could be sorted
out. We have some interlocking problems:
Wizard's Chess http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/05/opinion/05SUN1.html
. Washington must simultaneously cope with
three separate and potentially grave threats — from Iraq,
from North Korea and from the threat of reconstituted
international terrorist networks...
Russia, Germany, China, Russia, and France could
help with every one of these problems - and every one of these
problems ought to be soluble now. I hope Bush lets Blair
"play some cards" and use political capital in ways
that are useful.
France and Britain Urge Push for Mideast Peace By
ELAINE SCIOLINO http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/international/worldspecial/09CND-EURO.html
fredmoore
- 06:00pm Apr 9, 2003 EST (#
11225 of 11232)
Jorian, Gisterme ...
Be positive. NOW the UN has teeth. That is a POSITIVE. I
don't believe UN delegates will dwell on past failures when
future success beckons.
Cheers
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