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lchic
- 08:29am Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11049 of 11053) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Blair - talking BBC-Arabic ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/ ) -
praises 'George's' plan for the 2 States solution re Palestine
roadmap.
Blair belives Iraqi council will be installed to run Iraq,
have regard for human rights, and be representative of all the
people of Iraq.
lchic
- 08:38am Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11050 of 11053) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Blair
http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp
http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/results.pl?scope=newsifs&tab=news&q=blair&x=4&y=7
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2916797.stm
lchic
- 08:49am Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11051 of 11053) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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SARS --- knocking ME off the front pages
rshow55
- 09:28am Apr 4, 2003 EST (#
11052 of 11053)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
PM Blair may be the most important person alive today, if
we're to get through this time of crisis.
We're in a time of crisis, and there are deeply
"contradictory" attitudes expressed with great feeling. Some
just muddled, some truly contradictory.
Many of these different viewpoints are important in
different ways. Some show a fractal-like character, and show
complexities that aren't necessarily (or even often)
contradictory. For example, To Imagine Iraq After Saddam
Hussein, You Must Think Like an Iraqi By ETHAN BRONNER http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/opinion/04FRI4.html
starts with an expression of fractal-like regularities:
Every journalist abroad wants to tell his
readers at home two contradictory things. The first is: "The
people here may look and sound strange, but they are no
different from you and me. They want security and dignity;
they seek a better life for their children. What you share
with them far outweighs your differences." The second
message is the opposite: "Yes, people here hunger and hurt
and love; yes, they enjoy ice cream and action movies. But
if you think that by knowing that, you know them, you are
mistaken. These people are very different from you."
Some deeply felt statements show true contradiction.
Arab Media Portray War as Killing Field By SUSAN SACHS
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/international/worldspecial/04ARAB.html
ends:
"Some people said, before the invasion of
Iraq, that solving the Saddam problem would make the
reputation of the U.S. better," said Turki al-Hamad, a Saudi
commentator who advocates democratic reforms in the kingdom.
"Now if the United States said 2 plus 2 is 4, no one would
believe them."
al_Hamad knows, of course, that 2 + 2 = 4 ---- and that
remains true, even if the devil himself happens to say so.
We are facing a time where people are going to have
to face up to mistakes - true contradictions - because it is
too expensive and dangerous not to.
One point should not be a contradiction - though it
is often percieved to be.
Distrust and trust can both be good
things.
Both are absolutely essential things. You need both - -
alternately - - with switching from a perspective of trust to
one of distrust again and again. Life would be hopeless
without both trust and distrust. That's no contradicition.
If we figured out just a little bit more than we know, and
if we were just a little bit more honest -- we could survive -
and the world would be much better. If the following simple
rhyme became a "nursery rhyme" - learned by 4 year olds and
their parents -- the world would become a lot better. The
rhyme has a lot to do with "connecting the dots" - and the
fact that people, good as they are, aren't perfect.
Adults need secrets, lies and fictions
To live within their contradictions.
. . . . But when things go wrong
. . . . And knock about
. . .
. . . . Folks get together
. . . . And work it out.
A classic experiment is described in THE STRUCTURE OF
SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTIONS 2nd Ed. by Thomas S. Kuhn, , at the
end of Chapter 6 “Anomaly and the Emergence of Scientific
Discoveries” describes what an "intellectual crisis" or
"crisis of faith" looks like, and to some extent what it feels
like. The example is unemotional enough that people can be
clearer about it than they are about more emotional things.
How do you deal with a card that is a "red spade"? If you
handle the matter automatically and unconsciously - as people
handle most things in their
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