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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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almarst2003
- 06:22pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (#
10804 of 10812)
jorian,
What prevents you to raise a voice of wisdom rught here and
now?
What is exactly you would like to share and discuss?
Don't be afraid. Go ahead. I can assure you, no one was
ever hurt here, yet.
rshow55
- 06:30pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (#
10805 of 10812)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
The NYT cares about this thread, or it would have closed
long ago. The Bush administration does as well - neither
gisterme's posting's nor jorian310's are
happening by accident.
There are few participants, but serious ones.
Almarst , you asked why I was optimistic (though
terribly concerned). The reason is, that if we can get some
control on "the culture of lying" we can live in a
much safer world.
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7b2bd/1705
One of the basic arguments for the existence of God - much
used in the Middle Ages and now, and probably ageless, is that
the Universe is Orderly, and so must have a maker.
Whether that's right or not - the universe is orderly.
10473 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/12022
A reason things can be sorted out so often, on things that
matter, is that basic patterns very often repeat again and
again.
Fractals circumstances and SELF-SIMILARITY: http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/chaos-game/node5.html
10330-10332 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/11876
There's plenty to hope for, if we work at it - and if
people get concerned enough to think straight - we can sort
out a lot.
1536 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1704
1537 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1705
gives reasons why I keep working. If we can cut the incidence
of lies - we can find degrees of orderliness that make
the world much safer.
I'm doing just what I promised Bill Casey I would - and
there is a good chance - if people check that a
lot can get a lot better.
rshow55
- 06:45pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (#
10806 of 10812)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Almarst , you could be wrong when you say that
"no one was ever hurt here, yet."
Postings like 10766 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.ar8Zay8K65p.2397156@.f28e622/12316
, if they were checked, could "hurt" the Bush administration.
If it "hurt" them enough - they might do the job reasonable
people expect them to do.
jorian319
- 06:57pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (#
10807 of 10812)
TOO MUCH OF A "GOOD" THING?
We are effecting discourse.
Says Rshow.
Unfortunately that discourse consists of three people
(assuming no sockpuppets), whos posts comprise over 90% of
this forum.
I doubt if one lurker a month reads more than one post
total, after clicking on "missile defense" and seeing not a
word about it, just a running sermon by Rshowalarmstchick.
Most of Rshow's posts consist of epic lists of links to other
Rshow posts and Rshow's site - sheesh! Effecting discourse? If
you think so, I think it's effecting YOU. Which of course, is
to be applauded.
almarst2003
- 06:59pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (#
10808 of 10812)
Robert - "the culture of lying"
This is just a symptom, a servant, a tool.
The questions are:
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?
WHO BENEFITS?
WHY IT IS SO SUCCESSFULL AND PERVASIVE IN A COUNTRY OF A
SUPPOSEDLY FREE MEDIA?
Then, may be, there will be an answer to this one:
WHY ITS SO EASY TO "SELL" THE WAR HERE IN US?
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