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rshow55
- 08:44pm Mar 27, 2002 EST (#885
of 892)
mazza9
3/27/02 4:25pm . . . Mazza, it isn't nearly that simple -- the
US didn't "settle" the slavery issue during the Civil War -- and the
exemplar of Paul Robeson isn't unblemished either. Robeson may be as
good an example of the questions that "affirmative action" deals
with as you'll find -- and Robeson's communist connections showed
how alienated he was from his own country.
almarst-2001
3/27/02 4:07pm . . . . one doesn't have to claim that the US
and the Europeans are blameless. The past is ugly -- ugly enough
that it should give anybody pause. And facing up to the past is very
important, vital. That doesn't mean it necessarily makes sense to
accept evils in the present.
This came from China's flagship newspaper - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200104/18/eng20010418_67992.html
Here it is in part:
Daring to Shoulder Historical Responsibility: Way to Become
Big Political Power
" The event of Japan's tampering with the
history textbook has stirred up an unprecedented wave of
condemnation of Japan by various Asian countries, Italy, which is
far off on the continent of Europe, has also shown extensive
concern over the matter...
" The event of Japan's tampering with the
history textbook has stirred up an unprecedented wave of
condemnation of Japan by various Asian countries, Italy, which is
far off on the continent of Europe, has also shown extensive
concern over the matter. A local media commentary says the revised
Japanese history textbook "has stricken fear into the hearts of
the people in the once Japan-occupied countries. For the people of
various Asian countries, this is just like the German history
textbook which denies the Nazi acts of massacre".
. . . . . . .
" A look at Japan shows that its economic
strength ranks second in the world, but its political influence is
very insignificant. A contrast of Japan and Italy makes it easy
for people to see that Japan to this date fails to get the world's
forgiveness because it is weighed down by a historical burden, and
it is Japan itself that is unwilling to shed this burden. A
commentary of the Italian newspaper, the Republic, said, "Many
Japanese are dreaming of making their country a 'normal' country
which has the recognition of its neighboring countries and
possesses political influence that matches its mighty economic
strength. However, if Japan does not clear its own history and,
instead, relies only on tampering with its history textbook, the
dream of Japan will not come true."
" This remark has really come to the point.
"
China has violating that advice horribly, and not faced up to its
past in an ugly case, in the situation set out in
WHEN LIES KILL In China, the Right to Truth Meets Life and
Death by ERIK ECKHOLM http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/17/weekinreview/17ECKH.html
" An AIDS epidemic in a rural Chinese province
is only the latest example of the heavy costs of the controls on
information and political choice."
The points Eckholm made still apply.
MANY countries, including the US, and Russia, could improve both
themselves and the world by coming up to the standard the People's
Daily article sets. Not only China.
But it doesn't make sense to say "unless you're perfect - we
can't listen to you." . The advice in the People's Daily article is
good -- and remains so, even though the Chinese government often
ignores the standard it sets.
With respect to N. Korea, and Iraq, the United States, for all
its faults, has a right to speak. A right to act as "morals police"
for the world? That's another question, worthy of a lot of
discussion. But with respect to weapons of mass destruction -- self
defense surely is an issue.
rshow55
- 08:46pm Mar 27, 2002 EST (#886
of 892)
lchic
3/27/02 8:43pm ....Dao's piece is especially interesting (and
incomplete?) in light of this Washington Post story . . .
White Made More Calls Before Selling Enron Stock As
Company's Troubles Worsened in October, Army Secretary Talked to
Several Former Colleagues By Ellen Nakashima Washington
Post Staff Writer Monday, March 25, 2002; Page A02 ... includes
this:
" Army Secretary Thomas E. White, a former Enron
executive, lists 44 calls he made from his home to Enron
executives that he had not previously disclosed to Congress.
" I had no idea he sold any [stock] or what it
was," Rolfes said. "We didn't have any idea what the other did
with their personal wealth."
almarst-2001
- 11:39pm Mar 27, 2002 EST (#887
of 892)
"With respect to N. Korea, and Iraq, the United States, for
all its faults, has a right to speak."
Not in my view. The US was the one who attacked those countries
in a past, not the vice versa.
The US was the one who helped to arm the Iraq in its war with
Iran. The US at least looked the other way when Germany helped Iraq
to produce chemical wearpons. And it looked the other way when those
where used against Iran.
And, whatever horrible things Iraq did to Kurdish population, it
is very similar to what Turky continues to do till this day, using
the US supplied arms. And still, the Kurdish tragedy comes nowere
near the extermination of the Native populations in America, Canada
and Australia.
So, when you see a murderer who avoided the jail for the reason
of passage of time since the crime commited, knoking to your house
to teach you the good behavier, what is your reaction?
almarst-2001
- 11:45pm Mar 27, 2002 EST (#888
of 892)
"That doesn't mean it necessarily makes sense to accept evils
in the present. "
But at least, shouldn't that mean not to produce a new evils?
First and foremost? And, secondly, to recognise and rectify the past
misdeeds BEFORE lecturing and attacking the others?
Would you accept such a character as your local COP, Judge and
executor in one face?
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