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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
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rshow55
- 08:52pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#838
of 842)
almarst-2001
3/26/02 5:34pm .... almarst , you're right that
nation-state sovereinty is the most basic norm of international Law.
But it isn't involate, and can't be. Even nations can be forced to
obey rules, and conform, to one degree another, to other norms. For
reasons that can sometimes be widely approved of. An absolute
prohibition on "interference in a foreign nation's affairs," and
absolute prohibitions on efforts to "shape other governments" might
be ideals -- but these "absolute prohibitions" --which you can find
in international law, have been violated in so many ways, by so many
nation states, for so long -- that they can't be the only issues.
Even assuming that the current Russian government has been perfect
in this respect -- the Soviet Union surely was not. There is a
widespread feeling that the US has been a "busybody" in
international affairs, and worse -- and sometimes, for some specific
reasons, I think so, too.
http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=453
shows a very effective poster which includes this quote:
" Why of course the people don't want war --
but after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the
policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship . . Voice or no voice, the
people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That
is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country. ......... Hermann Goering - Nuremberg
Trials.
http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=453
also includes passages from President Bush's State of the Union
Adress.
Goering had some basic facts about organizing nations for war
straight. He made it clear how national leaders might justify
anything -- it they could control information.
But the argument to a nation that "we are being attacked"
may or not be true. The reasonableness of the argument depends on
both issues of context, and matters of degree. It is important that
it be possible to get these issues straight. Even if that means
getting unwelcome information presented, so it is actually seen and
heard - as you often work to do. Almarst , if this sort of
presentation of information were more effectively and completely
done, most of what concerns you could be dealt with well -- without
absolute, and unworkable, prohibitions, much as I may agree with
them.
It is easy to motivate nation states for "defense" -- and
after enough threatening - it can be hard to be sure "who started
it."
lchic
- 08:55pm Mar 26, 2002 EST (#839
of 842)
I don't think Japanese mentality was that crash hot before WWII
and many prisoners of war still haven't come to forgive the Japanese
for their out and out cruelty. Hopefully those days are gone!
So it's interesting to note that the x and y generation of
Japanese are more empathetic. They delight in cartoon characters
of movies, have their own disney world, and it is said like to
ape/copy things American.
Racoons have been kept by Japanese as pets ... but ... they
are very demanding. Rather than return them to the store they let
them into the wild. Adult racoons damage crops and create
nusiance, they can turn on water taps.
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