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almarst-2001
- 12:54pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#766
of 784)
gisterme - "the threat doesn't exist"
However questionable, it might be true.
My point is - the MD will cause the other nations to seek a
countermeasures. Not neceserely symmetrical or conventional.
The end result will be less security for all.
As I pointed out before, the MD changes the easily calculated MAD
into the much less predictable computation having to account the
unknown real efficiency of MD. It will be up to the other nation's
judgement to select a reliable countermeasure.
The MD will cause the death of strategic arms verification and
control regime even among disciplined and espectable nations.
Not to mention the small secretive ones.
It will cause a secretive strategic WMD arms race, including
the one in Space.
lchic
- 12:56pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#767
of 784)
Homeland or World?
An important question ... the world sees the USA fiasco as being
little related to world and much related to USA.
almarst-2001
- 01:02pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#768
of 784)
"USA fiasco as being little related to world and much related
to USA."
It would not be a problem, if the USA would not be on a MISSION
of reshaping the world for its like.
This is a very combustive mixture.
rshow55
- 01:11pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#769
of 784)
Progress ! There are some things happening in the world (and on
this thread) which indicate that we might get some things to be less
ugly, and more safe -- practically.
I was interested in the last posting by gisterme - - both
for the good things about it . . . and some of the not-so-good.
I think a lot of what almarst , lchic , and I discussed
last year (often helped along by distinguished postings from others)
is relevant.
I'll be back about gisterme
3/22/02 12:34pm soon.
lchic
- 01:15pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#770
of 784)
President John F. Kennedy once toasted all American Nobel
Prize winners by saying it was the greatest gathering of
intellects at the White House since Thomas Jefferson died there
alone! see
rshow55
- 01:39pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#771
of 784)
I was very glad to see MD764 gisterme
3/22/02 12:34pm . . . which quotes my "We know that the
MD programs set out in public can't work tactically..." and goes
on as follows:
Gisterme: "That's simply not the truth, Robert.
I challenge you to back up those words. I know you can't or you
would have long ago...as all the things you've been saying "can't
be done" are gradually coming to pass. Four out of six BMD
successes, is the evidence I hold up to refute your claim,
Robert.
I've never denied those successes, which are admirable as
technical achievements, considered in "pure" terms. But those
successes are limited and far, far less than tactical
function will require. MD36 rshow55
3/1/02 8:12pm
Gisterme , I know that, busy as you are, you can't read
all the postings here. But MD730 rshow55
3/20/02 8:37pm ended with . . . "What do you think,
gisterme ?" . . . . Have you read the following?
MD728 rshow55
3/20/02 7:58pm ... MD729 rshow55
3/20/02 8:32pm MD730 rshow55
3/20/02 8:37pm
Would you, please?
Can I also assume that you're familiar with the existence of the
material referred to in MD84 rshow55
3/2/02 10:52am ?
Perhaps we're dealing with some honest mistakes here -- and
perhaps some of them are my own. But if so -- it is worthwhile to
resolve them, because the stakes are so high.
lchic
- 04:40pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#772
of 784)
Did 'sense' die with Jefferson ? http://carolinawhispers.com/images/6023.jpg
lchic
- 07:46pm Mar 22, 2002 EST (#773
of 784)
KABUL:
A friendly game of basketball between a US and Afghan team
turned violent when spectators kicked a fallen American player and
a guard rushing to protect him unintentionally shot two Afghans
"Until our interior ministry is able to control the crowd
security, we should not have these kinds of matches," said Azizi,
a consultant for the Kabul Olympic committee and a member of the
Afghan basketball federation.
Marshall, the peacekeeping spokesman, referred questions about
whether the Americans or other troops would rethink their goodwill
policy to the US embassy, which didn't return repeated calls
seeking comment today.
Not all sporting events between international forces and
Afghans have ended violently, however.
This week, British members of the international peacekeeping
force played a cricket match with an Afghan team - complete with
cucumber triangle sandwiches, scones and tea. The Afghans were
ahead when rain stopped play Games can be equated
with 'tribal' war ... if only the thinking pre match had been this
... mix the players for basket ball into two new teams .. dress them
in burkas (wow?!) ... then if lateral slips occurred the
consequences might be less dire .. re-configured thinking .. always
make the home-guys the 'STARS' .. COACH the home teams ... recall
the NewScientist item re 'home ground' advantage.
So what's the moral here wrt Nukes .... yes - sports a positive
neutral activity that people can grow through .. whereas Nukes are a
negative activity that people need to 'grow out' of!
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