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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 02:21pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#330
of 386)
With the need to justify military expenditure comes a support for
warlike, often very narrow and ugly ideas -- for instance those
expressed about Europeans by semi-official "supporters" of the US
government in FLYING INTO TURBULENCE by Peter Martin http://www.intellnet.org/news/articles/peter.martin.flying.into.turbulence.html
I think every political leader in Europe, and every military
officer in NATO, ought to read Martin's piece -- and notice how
strange it is.
The political connection between the US military and politics --
what many call the "iron triangle" consisting of the military, the
military contactors, and congress -- can be enormously powerful --
sometimes unstoppable.
Clinton said that, when it came to missile defense, he was up
against the "iron triangle" and could only do so much.
Americans, and people in other nations, need to be clearer about
how this "iron triangle" works.
The interests of the "iron triangle" may be understandable, but
they are not identical with the interests of the United States as
a country. If they operationally seem to be the same, that's
cause for concern, for both America and the rest of the world.
MD158 rshow55
3/3/02 2:54pm ... MD159 rshow55
3/3/02 3:02pm MD160 rshow55
3/3/02 3:21pm ... MD162 almarst-2001
3/3/02 4:11pm
We could check some facts - - and see how they change the
possible "connections of the dots" on key issues of war, peace, and
decent priorities. MD84 rshow55
3/2/02 10:52am
If the VP had to discuss the validity of the ideas on
which his administration has staked so much with leaders on his trip
-- we and our allies might come up with more reasonable ideas and
actions than ones now based on fictions.
Lies are dangerous. There are many dangerous fictions in the
world -- many in Islamic nations. To handle them well, we need to be
honest, and checkable, ourselves.
mazza9
- 04:44pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#331
of 386) Louis Mazza
RShow55:
"Your purpose, almost always - is to distract, and defocus the
coherent." This is an opinion. Your stating an opinion doesn't make
it fact.
To distill this hodge podge of forum posting to its essence
presents the following:
1. I believe that Missile Defense can be achieved.
2. You believe that Missile Defense is not achievable.
You offer no proof and wander far afield to Viet Nam, Enron and
other pointless issues. Of course to blame me of being the source of
obfuscation in this forum covers up your lack of discipline.
LouMazza
almarst-2001
- 07:02pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#332
of 386)
"iron triangle" consisting of the military, the military
contactors, and congress"
So, does it seem I was right about military-industrial-political
complex, wasn't I?
rshow55
- 07:36pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#333
of 386)
yes.
mazza9
- 07:37pm Mar 10, 2002 EST (#334
of 386) Louis Mazza
NO!
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