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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 05:15pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#302
of 330)
There's plenty to be concerned about.
To do some effective things about it, people who make news
-- rather than "just" cover the news, have to take a hand.
mazza9
- 05:20pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#303
of 330) Louis Mazza
Almarst-2001
It must be a terrible burden to operate under the disability of
abject ignorance. You don't know me and choose to ascribe feeling
and thoughts to me as if your ignorance is sufficent basis for such
pronouncements.
To say that I don't value life is slanderous. Have you ever saved
a life? I have! Have you ever gone into a child care center that was
threatened by a burning vehicle that might explode and lead children
to safety? I have!
Your nonsensical statements are an affront. Keep on the subject
or go away!
LouMazza
rshow55
- 05:22pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#304
of 330)
Mazza, you're very comfortable with mass murder -- you distract
whenever you can - - and I can see almarst's point of view.
almarst-2001
- 05:24pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#305
of 330)
Louis,
It was not my intention to diminish your personal heroism.
What I was discussing are the ideas. Not personalities. Sorry if
that was not understood.
rshow55
- 05:26pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#306
of 330)
Excellent, almarst !
almarst-2001
- 05:27pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#307
of 330)
"Have you ever saved a life? I have!"
In the Jewish religion, to save the single life is like to save
the world.
I just hope one should not take it as a priviledge to reduce the
World to rubble after the saving someone's life.
mazza9
- 06:00pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#308
of 330) Louis Mazza
RShow55:
An where, pray tell, do you develop this belief that I would be
comfortable with mass killing?
Oh maybe the saying has been changed, "Who knows what secrets
lurk in the hearts and minds of man? The Shadow (RShow55) does."
You speak of communications, tolerance and understanding but
don't practice it. You know, maybe that is the source of all the
angst in the world.
Almarst you mentioned optimism. Well, you can accuse me of that,
I suppose. Read my thread at the Space Exploration forum or visit my
club's web site WWW.nssnt.org to experience what I think about where
I would like mankind to go. Hint:Ad Astra.
LouMazza
lchic
- 07:33pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#309
of 330)
In the Jewish religion, to save the single life is like to
save the world. (Alex) This is an interesting statement.
If there is peace with security understanding purpose and worldly
love ... then people in that setting are being 'saved' minute by
minute by minute -- without them ever knowing that they 'could' have
been endangered.
I like this idea.
Constant peace is actually saving multiple lives in our single
world.
Hope you folks appreciate the updated interpretation here ... so
if the 'threated by nuclear strike labelled nations' went to an
international body that declared that this 'threat' should be
removed ... then a third to half of the world's entire population
would be being 'saved' by straight talking and straight thinking.
rshow55
- 09:25pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#310
of 330)
We need to understand, much better than we do, the brave,
dangerous, thoughtless, cruel social hunting animals that we are.
And modify, through culture, instincts and patterns both natural and
adaptive to group hunters, with simple weapons, that are gruesomely
ill fitted to our current socio-technical systems, where we fight
each other, rather than hunt, and do so with weapons with powers we
can barely understand, but too easily use. Nuclear weapons are very
natural indeed. But so is death.
A Foul Wind by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/10/opinion/10FRIE.html
....ends:
"Is that real enough for you?"
It is real enough for me.
king01a
- 11:39pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#311
of 330)
almarst-2001 - 05:13pm Mar 9, 2002 EST (#301 of
310)
I think that the first two atom bombs were claimed to have been
dropped over civilians for "humanitarian" purpose. Some call it good
maths.
But this "humanitarian" bomb was not taken lightly once Soviet
built her own. Since then missle defense system became rather
important. Good maths turned into a nightmare.
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