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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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dirac_10
- 03:22pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4892
of 4915)
rshowalter - 03:15pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4890 of 4891)
Amazing how innocent those that post on the missile defense forum
are. Well, I'm here to inform...
Absorbtion problems?
Not an issue. The problem is getting out of phase, caused by the
same atmospheric distortions that make the stars twinkle. They have
solved it with adaptive optics. The mirror's shape can be changed in
thousands of places, very many times/second. A small laser paints
the target and bounces back to get the info necessary.
Vibration problems with the airplane?
Not a problem.
Anybody blushing when they predict this will work?
The airplane one will be tested next year. It is only 1 megawatt.
And the wavelength doesn't penetrate the atmosphere as well as the
big ground based ones. But still good for many hundreds of miles.
alty53
- 03:23pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4893
of 4915)
To dirac 0.5.....you are absolutely correct.......exposing frauds
and flim-flams can be a lot of fun........spin on, spin on
dirac_10
- 03:28pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4894
of 4915)
alty53 - 03:23pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4893 of 4893)
Well, at least you didn't claim to be an editor in a laser "trade
magazine".
Your innocence is understandable. Trust me, I'm used to it.
alty53
- 03:31pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4895
of 4915)
To dirac 10....you are an arrogant riot.......it was
fun..........later
rshowalter
- 04:16pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4896
of 4915) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD3773 rshowalter
5/12/01 6:47pm
"I feel that a great deal of progress has been made since
gisterme's debut . . . Especially since gisterme's MD3319 gisterme
5/4/01 11:25pm ...to which I responded in .. MD3327-3328 rshowalter
5/5/01 10:06am: ...with the citation http://scienceforpeace.sa.utoronto.ca/WorkingGroupsPage/NucWeaponsPage/Documents/ThreatsNucWea.html
THREATS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS: The Sixteen Known Nuclear Crises
of the Cold War, 1946-1985 by David R. Morgan
"We've come long way since - common ground is being established,
differences are being clarified, thoughts and ideas are coming into
focus.
"Dawn Riley and I believe that, especially with the augmented
memory of the internet, controversies that could not be resolved
before may be resolvable now. MD2565: rshowalter
4/24/01 7:56pm ... MD2566: rshowalter
4/24/01 8:09pm
"We believe that controversies that could not be resolved before
may be resolvable now.
"It seems to me that this thread is a step toward showing that. .
I feel that the last two months have continued that
progress.
rshowalter
- 05:26pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4897
of 4915) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Gisterme , I reread 4832 midmoon
6/12/01 9:56am , and am thinking about it.
It has interesting language:
" I think NMD is not the best solution to the
problem but I also think it could be a sort of the second best
answer.
" The best answer may be that the U.S. devotes
herself to persuade the rouge nations to give up dangerous missile
play and hopefully they are persuaded to stop the dirty play.
" This will require a cosiderable amount of
perseverence for the part of the U.S.
That "best answer" sounds very good -- especially if all
parties work to stand down from mutual destruction, and a
general pattern of excessive threats.
Otherwise, that "best answer" can't work -- and neither can any
answer I know.
We've got some work to do, backing off from the current
situation, where excessive threat is the American way.
If Russia and the United States worked together to reduce
world conflicts, I think that the whole world could step back from
what midmoon calls, very politely "dirty play."
For that to be possible, RUSSIA has to be convinced that
the new arrangements do not threaten her. And that she can have a
reasonable, just place, in the new accomodations. "Peaceful
coexistence" has to be real.
And just, by many standards.
Other nations have to come to feel the same.
As for the "rogues" --- a term many feel uncomfortable with-- the
threat from them can be neutralized, I believe, if we can work hard
to reduce the levels of fear and hatred, and neutralize some
feelings for revenge that are now strong.
Sure looks possible to me. But not easy.
Because in my view. the United States would have to
change.
For real - and in ways that other nations, as they are, with the
past as it is, could be comfortable with for good reasons.
gisterme
- 05:28pm Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4898
of 4915)
rshowalter wrote: "...that was almarst that wrote that -- do I
have that wrong -- I'll check."
You're right Robert. Sorry. Almarst did write that.
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