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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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alty53
- 11:29am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4842
of 4855)
To Dirac 10: I have you figured for a bright and articulate early
20's white boy living in a comic book fantasy world of naive
assumptions about the technology fix and about big power
politics......space is just another battle ground where if you get
your forces to the field first, you will most certainly prevail in
battle.......that is the geopolitical strategy of the Bush crowd and
your unsupported denials to the contrary will not change
that......and by the way........it took Kepler more than twenty
years to plot the eliptical orbit of Mars.......you are at a ground
based tracking station and have a half hour to plot and track a 30
meter long missile coming at you with a variable velocity on a
variable trajectory and heading for an unknown destination while at
the same time your location is also moving at about 1000km per
hour.......solve the problem smart boy........
smartalix
- 11:41am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4843
of 4855) Anyone who denies you information considers
themselves your master
He can't even sort out the difference between intercepting an
incoming warhead and intercepting the ICBM during boost.
rshowalter
- 11:45am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4844
of 4855) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Solve the problem with NOISE with calibration questions, and with
real people and real equipment -- (add a little chaff, say -- )
Well, it might be done. ... But if you look at what the radars can
really do, and look at the resulution that is actually there -- and
run through the errors, which go one on top of another -- it is
recklessly far-fetched to assume that this is an "effective
defense."
Or that something like a "lasar" could solve the problem. You
have to aim the lasar.
But with a little modification of trajectories, easily arranged
with a small bottle of compressed air, and a valve -- you'd find
that even a "perfectly calculated zero noise" trajectory would miss
-- because you'd be assuming a pure ballistic trajectory, when the
warhead was doing something else.
Want to do better, without fancy calculations. You need a
lot of data points to prodigious resolution, and there's
no way to get those data points, in the real world.
Another point. Ever been on a ship, or an airplane, or looked at
the forces on a rocket when the rocket was burning? Things rock and
shake -- enough to make missile defense a VERY tough proposition.
Not worth doing. We could, and must, make peace instead.
rshowalter
- 11:46am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4845
of 4855) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
My own judgement is that dirac is a real professional.
smartalix
- 11:49am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4846
of 4855) Anyone who denies you information considers
themselves your master
If he is, he is a sloppy one.
rshowalter
- 11:50am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4847
of 4855) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
almarst might be interested in these. We DON"T have all
the answers about how to get economic growth, and some of the
answers being pitched very hard may be being pushed for empirically
unsupported political reasons. But "bastions of capitalism" such as
HBS are subject to evidence and argument.
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http://hbswk.hbs.edu/topics/special_reports/
Ford's Jacques Nasser led a Who's Who of business luminaries
speaking at this year's conference.
Globalization Great Divide in the Global Village
http://hbswk.hbs.edu/topics/globalization/
Is politics preventing globalization from closing the income gap
between rich and poor countries? In his Foreign Affairs article,
Professor Bruce R. Scott examines the growing gap between poverty
and wealth in the global village.
rshowalter
- 11:51am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4848
of 4855) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Perhaps he's meticulously serving the people who pay him --
muddying the water, degrading the discourse, prefenting closure.
rshowalter
- 11:55am Jun 12, 2001 EST (#4849
of 4855) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD825 rshowalter
3/4/01 12:27pm. . . MD826 rshowalter
3/4/01 1:04pm
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