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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 03:26pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4757
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Complexity, and dealing with it:
MD1131 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?14@184.fvFca4OApMl^691177@.f0ce57b/1227...
MD1132 rshowalter
3/17/01 6:10pm MD1134 rshowalter
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3/17/01 6:19pm MD1136 rshowalter
3/17/01 6:24pm ... MD1143 rshowalter
3/17/01 8:03pm MD1144 rshowalter
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gisterme
- 03:53pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4758
of 4771)
dirac wrote: "...I'm talking about someone that makes something
out of nothing..."
I agree 100% with your point dirac. Different folks have
different gifts. Has nothing to do with political equality or even
process.
Nearly anybody can learn to play the piano by working through a
process; but the vast majority of those who do that will never have
the talent necessary to become professional musicians and even less
will become great composers.
Likewise successful entrepeneurs use a similar talent to achieve
the things they do. It has to do with good judgement in business
decisions...an ability, some kind of instinct, to know what the
truth is WRT their business effort. I couldn't agree more with the
characteristics that you attribute to successful business people,
dirac.
I would add that successful business poeple usually have very
good leadership skills too. Those skills are seldom attributable to
working through a process.
rshowalter
- 03:59pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4759
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Those skills involve a tremendous amount of "working
through ordinary processes" -- but to do really difficult things --
you have to go beyond that.
But the mass of recieved knowledge is very great.
Most readers of this thread know more than 100,000 words. And we
all figured them out ourselves - we looked up only a tiny fraction
of them - though we usually agree about word meanings. The corpus of
recieved knowledge we all have, and have to have -- is very
great -- something a fairly conservative, very clear english
Professor -- E.D. Hirsch , is clear about.
People have to learn, by being in contact with a culture and,
very often, they need to be taught things that they are not
born knowing.
rshowalter
- 04:00pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4760
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
As far as information flows go, to dismiss is to kill. And some
conservatives seem very comfortable doing that.
rshowalter
- 04:11pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4761
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
focusing on the notion of evil : MD3727 gisterme
5/15/01 6:24pm ... MD3938 possumdag
5/15/01 6:50pm MD3945 rshowalter
5/15/01 7:22pm
"evil" as "disciplined beauty" according to warped
assumptions and lies: MD3946 rshowalter
5/15/01 7:23pm
MD3946 rshowalter
5/15/01 7:40pm Illustrative "cartoons of assumptions"
applied to the people I think of when I think "evil" ---
. Alexander the Great -- Atilla the Hun
---Napolean --- Hitler --- Stalin
rshowalter
- 04:13pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4762
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Here's the " Hitler" assumption -- the essential core of
the NAZI viewpoint:
Hitler
" There is an "ideal Germany" to be advanced at
all costs, I am the person to conceptualize it and impose it, and
there will be NO value being placed on any nation, group, or
individual who do not fit my elaborate, philosophically ornate,
arbitrary conception."
rshowalter
- 04:33pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4763
of 4771) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
"Disciplined beauty" , from different points of view --
examples from movies: MD3951 rshowalter
5/15/01 8:20pm
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