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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 01:50pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4748
of 4753) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And with "facts" and "models" matched against things in
more ways, and in the open . . MOVING MORE SAFELY in areas
where right answers could hardly matter more.
rshowalter
- 02:04pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4749
of 4753) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I bet reporters who were given clear, supported arguments that
their pieces were biased would pay some attention - not deference,
but attention.
And people who argued that there was bias might have their mind
changed in some cases, as well.
In public -- but in a pattern that wasn't too public.
Technically, the costs are minimal, and headed lower pretty
quickly.
rshowalter
- 02:24pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4750
of 4753) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Now, arguments between people of different views are sometimes
unanswered because there is no workable mechanism for answering -
with reasonable costs to the parties involved.
Internet based comments on published articles would provide the
mechanism in important areas where discussion in now closed off.
And a better mechanism than the "storm-trooper school" (as I'd
regard it, going back to some earlier reading of mine about Nazi
procedures that worked so well for subverting German culture)
described today in Blaine Harden's article:
In Virginia, Young Conservatives Learn How to Develop and Use
Their Political Voices http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/11/politics/11CONS.html
Statements that might not be right, could be discussed at the
level of specifics and generalities, together, in such an
internet-enabled comment format. For instance, according to Harden's
story
" Based on its recent direct-mail campaign, one
of the institute's primary fund-raising strategies is to convince
conservative donors that its graduates can neutralize what it
regards as left-leaning news media.
" Liberal media bias is out of control," said the
letter, which was mailed over Mr. Watts's signature, but which Mr.
Blackwell said was written at the institute. "It's indecent.
It's time you and I did something about it."
Well, is there indecency here? Are there tactics here that ought
to be discussed? I think so.
With the internet, and a little ingenuity, the mechanisms for
that discussion could be provided.
And enough matching could be done to go a long way toward
separating facts and valid statements from lies and distortions.
rshowalter
- 02:33pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4751
of 4753) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Some background to the feature on Dark Side of U.S. Quest for
Security: Squalor on an Atoll by HOWARD W. FRENCH offers
examples of a story that could be discussed - and discussed well,
within the internet format. The tradition of the installation
being covered, which goes back many years, has things to say about
nuclear policy, and reasons for discomfort that various nation
states can reasonably have.
The installation described carries on an isolated and
uniterrupted tradition from the first atomic tests. It is
interesting, and revealing, to see how self indulgent and ruthless
that tradition is.
The resemblence, to me, to Major Strasser and other Nazi figures
in Casablanca is stunning.
MD3383 rshowalter
5/6/01 8:36pm ... MD3384 rshowalter
5/6/01 8:37pm and especially MD 3385 rshowalter
5/6/01 8:41pm ... which reads in part:
"I've already used Casablance as a model for talking about
nuclear terror in Psychwar, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/0
-- in detail from postings 13 to 23 . The movie shows a good deal
about how human animals work in society, in peace and conflict, and
I try to set that out.
"Two of the reasons I liked Casablanca aren't in the text
of the Guardian thread now. I've used one point already -- that at
the end, a really guilty man, Captain Renault, turns over a new
leaf, and nobody seems to think much about what justice to Renault
might be - a bad man gets off. . . . .
"The other point about Casablanca , that I didn't mention
before, but find very helpful, is that there isn't any mention of
allusion to anti-semitism in the movie. Major Strasser and the
other Germans are objectionable because they are merciless bullies.
They are liked no better because of their evident discipline,
sharpness, and competence. The American military, and
military-industrial complex, seen through foreign eyes, looks much
too much like the German military looks in Casablanca. I
believe that this is an essential aesthetic and practical point. I
believe that it needs to be understood in America, as it is already
understood in much of the rest of the world.
rshowalter
- 02:36pm Jun 11, 2001 EST (#4752
of 4753) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Refusing to Save Africans by BOB HERBERT http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/11/opinion/11HERB.html
brings very similar thoughts to mind.
It seems very easy for some "good conservatives" to dismiss
people as unworthy -- worthy only of death.
Death by the millions. And it is easy for "good conservatives" to
place other "good conservatives" in positions to see that the death
happens.
Especially when the alternative might take a little
understanding, or work.
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