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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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dirac_10
- 04:11pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4625
of 4636)
alty53 - 03:35pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4623 of 4624)
If dirac 10 had any sense of physics
Oh, I suspect we can expect you to drop the subject of physics
like a hot potato.
he/she would quickly recognize that you can not shoot a
missle down traveling at 6.9 miles per second or more than
36,000 feet per second (take your choice).
6.9? Not 7, not 6.8 but 6.9? Seems a little fast, but in the
ballpark for an ICBM warhead.
What the heck is the problem? What physics problem stops us?
Guess you forgot to mention it, huh?
Ballpark, it's 10 times faster than a jet. Big deal.
Speed of light limitations aren't an issue.
And we have been able to predict the path of the ICBM since
Kepler. Newton explained why.
The "B" in ICBM stands for sitting duck.
The existing lasers shoot dozens of shots/second. Speed of light.
Plus the well well beaten path of antimissle/jet missles.
Scraping the ABM Treaty and the Missiles in Space
Treaty of 1967 is really designed to place missile loaded
platforms in space orbiting at about 400 miles above your
head.
Actually no. It is designed to save the human race from
extinction. At least the people of the United States.
The Europeans/Russians and the Japanese/Chinese will
most certainly build their own missile platforms targeting US
cities in response to the US threat to their cities.
This may come as a shock to you, but Russia and Communist China
have lots of missles aimed at us right now. Enough to totally
obliterate us. And nothing to stop it. Duh.
And the Japanese targeting us? I rather doubt it. The Communist
Chinese ain't exactly thrilled at them either. Or anyone else in
Asia.
Soon we all get to go to bed at night with nuclear
tipped missiles orbiting overhead just two minutes away from
vaporizing you and your family.
2 minutes after the launch of an ICBM, getting vaporized is a
certainty as we stand. You just live a few minutes more. There won't
be a warning.
At least with the present system we have a half hour before
the missiles arrive......a half hour to prevent World War
III.
With the certainty of destruction of the target, regardless. You
can't call them back.
And your "rocket in orbit" ain't gonna accelerate the warhead to
your "6.9" mps speed or make it to the ground in 2 minutes any time
soon.
sonicboom28
- 05:01pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4626
of 4636)
I am not suprisied that "DR. STRANGERUM" AND HIS PENTAGON TEAM
are rushing ahead to deploy an unproven technology with our tax
dollars. My question is: Does he seek to regenerate the Cold War, or
fall on his can and get this nation into a shooting war.
Sec Def Rumsfeld has simply been out of the national security
game for too long to notice that the world has changed in a profound
way since he last served in government. And, Commander in Chief
Cheney is cheering him along.
If you voted for "Junior", its is on your back for another 3.5
years. Why is it that the republican party loves fools as their
leaders?
rshowalter
- 05:16pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4627
of 4636) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This thread has been, as much of my work has been, an attempt to
get closure and truth in discourse -- and a demonstration of the
point that -- many times checking must be morally forcing if
good things are to be achieved, or bad things avoided. I've been
involved with this issue, on these New York Times forum
threads, for a long time.
One individual, again and again - has demonstrated how to
avoid closure -- how to distract, and degrade discourse - and
has given, in my view, real clarity and meaning to the word bad
faith. After more than 55 interactions with dirac ... on
this thread, I made some things explicit -- things that people
around the NYT have reason to know -- in MD1742 rshowalter
3/29/01 8:09pm . . . MD2133 rshowalter
4/10/01 10:29am MD2134 rshowalter
4/10/01 10:32am . . . MD2135 rshowalter
4/10/01 10:39am MD2136 rshowalter
4/10/01 10:54am and many links referring to these.
amacd
- 05:17pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4628
of 4636) For what the global corporate elite are doing to
average people everywhere, the New York Times serves the same
function as K-Y Jelly
Now that even "Chance the President" has accepted the Nation
Academy of Science report that global warming is real and 'serious
science', it looks like the only gainful employment opportunities
for 'junk scientists' is with the defense contractors on NMD.
rshowalter
- 05:21pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4629
of 4636) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If Senator Levin and his colleagues do a competent job, "junk
scientists" may actually have to pull up their socks, and find
honest employment. And the defense contractors may have to do some
honest bookeeping - and accounting of who, and how, they take
orders, and for what purpose.
rshowalter
- 05:27pm Jun 8, 2001 EST (#4630
of 4636) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD4542 rshowalter
6/7/01 9:55am ... MD4543 rshowalter
6/7/01 10:05am
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