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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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markojhu
- 08:59am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4420
of 4466)
They say we can't get the technology by 2004? Well, I say if Bush
went ahead and ignored the treaty and contracted all the
Universities and contractors out there, we could have this thing
done pretty soon. We're not idiots over hear. In fact, I believe
that we already have the technology left over from the 80's but we
can't just go around telling people. We are obliged to say that we
"don't have the technology" simply to keep other countries calm. The
point is, as soon as we release a 100 percent effective missle
defense system, we're not taking offense, we're taking defense for
the entire world. If someone shoots a missle off anywhere in the
world, we will be able to destroy it. Hey look at that, no more
threat of nuclear war. YAAAAAAAA!!! The only thing is, is we have to
actually start working on a system that can be as powerful as I was
talking about. But I think we can do that, its not too hard
jimmcd53
- 09:19am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4421
of 4466)
While we cannot let the Russians or Euroweenies or anyone else
dictate policy to us, it would be a mistake to tear up the ABM teaty
and related agreements. Colin Powell's challenge on this front is to
keep them intact for the sake of stability in international affairs
while securing adjustments that will make it possible for us to go
ahead with research and development without violating anything. That
would be the ideal situation.
But the main problem with the missile defense concept laid out by
the Bush Administration is that it is inefficient and ultimately of
less value than other things we could do. Imagine, conservative
Republicans advocating waste!
I think it was Frederick the Great who said that he who defends
everything defends nothing. Why do we have to keep learning the same
old lessons all over again?
Power projection, to the extent that we will have to use it,
depends on a robust Navy-Marine Corps team always close enough to
all potential hot spots to arrive quickly with enough force to make
a big difference right away. Backing that up we need an Army and Air
Force that can move in like lightning when heavyweight reinforcement
is needed. Missile defense systems, which we should continuously
improve, should be concentrated to protect our forward deployed
assets.
If anybody wants a more elaborate argument, rather than take up a
lot of space here I'll refer them to to www.hackworth.com where
they'll find an archived Defending America column entitled "Rumsfeld
Wall Won't Defend America."
timcole2
- 09:34am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4422
of 4466)
Only in this day in age, will Americans call the President Mr.
Bush. That is an utter disrespect and I cannot believe this would be
printed in the New York Times. America will not wake up and come
together unless we have another war or get bombed. Only then will we
have the American ideology of the days of old.
smartalix
- 10:31am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4423
of 4466) Anyone who denies you information considers
themselves your master
"The days of old"?
How does M.A.D. come into play with an accidental
launch or terrorists who would gladly be "destroyed"?
Number one, the likelyhood of an accidental launch in the
forseeable future is low. In the case of the Russians, they would
have to re-target their missiiles to threated the US, not an
accident scenario, and in the case of China, their missiles take
several days to prep for launch. No other country that is even a
marginal threat to us at this time has ICBM cpability. It is easier
to make the bomb than the ICBM to launch it.
As far as terrorism goes, one of the biggest arguments against
missile defense is that a terrorist group will not launch an ICBM,
they would sail a boat into NY Harbor.
We should continue to research missile defense, however, and if
we do deploy once we have a working system, we should only do so as
part of a multilateral peace initiative.
vyseguys0
- 10:41am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4424
of 4466)
I didn't pick up in Sen. Levin's missle defense comments much
different than the administrations in that he wants robust studies.
But I sure did notice his dramatic difference with his majority
leaders comment that the Bush missle defense plan was "finished".
But lets at least have a limited defense for Florida and Maryland.
Why just there you ask? Please tell Sen. Daschle thats where my
grandchildren live.
ktaucer01
- 11:08am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4425
of 4466)
Finally! Someone who is willing to say what the majority of
Americans already know about Star Wars Jr.- The damn thing won't
work and is simply just another Republican boondoggle for their rich
but unscrpulous supporters. Good for Senator Levin he's not letting
any of the Ultra's scare tactics, threats or ravings interfer with
his common sense.
mrlyrics
- 11:53am Jun 1, 2001 EST (#4426
of 4466)
So, the President believes that the National Missile Defense
should be deployed even if its not 100% effective. Fine, no defense
is perfect. But so far, we've failed on two of three tests, and the
one success was accidental. How useful is a "defense" that is
unsuccessful 67% of the time... that will allow two of of every
three missles through?
Not that viability really matters. The idea of any missile
defense is foolish because it will only encourage those rougue
countries that can build missiles, to build ever more believing
(quite rightly so) that they can overwhelm our feeble system. Other
countries will simply hatch other schemes to inflict damage on the
U.S., if they're so inclined, by assembling and detonating weapons
of mass destruction -- be they chemical or biological -- within or
close to our borders, sidestepping this 21st Century version of the
Maginot Line altogether.
It's not really missile defense we're building, it's corporate
welfare for the military-industrial complex.
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