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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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wrcooper - 08:28am May 30, 2001 EST (#4327 of 4466)

See http://slate.msn.com/foreigners/entries/01-05-29_106657.asp in slate.com today for an article on why the Europeans may come around in support of Bush's NMD plan.

possumdag - 08:42am May 30, 2001 EST (#4328 of 4466)
Possumdag@excite.com

Agent Orange features in the New Scientist 2001May26 p13. It's running through the food chain STILL in Vietnam and the USA aren't finding the dollars needed to contain it.

possumdag - 08:49am May 30, 2001 EST (#4329 of 4466)
Possumdag@excite.com

Plutonium salessee May 23

fgreenfield0 - 10:13am May 30, 2001 EST (#4330 of 4466)

The Russians are coming, The Chinese are coming, The Asians are coming and just maybe the Iranians and Indians, Libyans et al. Like these nations do not have enough problems to solve, or the money to do so that they are going to be in favor of Uncle Sammy want to build an Air Defence System. Even Canada has shied away from this massive attempt to control the skies. America has more than enough domestic problems where its money should be going instead of this multi-billion system. Upgrade American living standards with the money and if you can't do that, raise the pay standards for your military low ranking men. I am sure they could do with a nice healthy raise in order to meet better living standards.

ktaucer01 - 11:14am May 30, 2001 EST (#4331 of 4466)

You know you got to kinda admire those Euros,they may talk funny and eat weird things but they can be just sooo diplomatic. Even when presented with such an obviously hairbrained scheme as Star Wars Jr. by the Bushies they manage to make sounds as if this idea really did warrent serious consideration. Instead of telling Powell straight-up that they know he is too damn intelligent to belive the tripe he was trying to dish out to them and that anyone with half a brain knows that a rouge state has no reason to fire-off an easily tracked missel against the Goodguys when the rouges can simply deliver it By Fed-Ex, undetected. No they tell him they will " consider" the proposal and that George BushII really ought to consult with his former Nazi Rocket scientists befor he spends to much more effort on this thing, and if W. is having problems understanding his own Nazi scientists they'll lend him some of theirs who speak with a Texas drawl. And by the way Tell Jr. he certainly does LOOK presidential in his ten gallon hat, bermuda shorts and cowboy boots. Give Cheney their best but to remember that as much as they like him he can't drill in their National Parks, wild life refuges or next to their government buildings. Very diplomatic those Euros.

rshowalt - 11:32am May 30, 2001 EST (#4332 of 4466)

CIA's Worst-Kept Secret - http://www.consortiumnews.com/051601a.html

Some of America's past policies are considerably worse than the American people themselves.

But the American people themselves have been on the recieving end of a longstanding - sophisticated, very well funded propaganda campaign -- and we have to take care to see that the American people, themselves, do not get lowered to the level of the propaganda.

" Perhaps the Journos are warned off by the Guard Dogs and guns of military administration."

That warning off can be very explicit and threatening indeed. Some warnings have been so for me, and for a lady I work with -- people have some reason to be afraid.

But less reason to be afraid than they may at first think. And after a while, people now paralyzed by fear -- including very many journalists, may find ways to act on their consciences.

The US needs to face up to some things in its past, and in its present -- to be worthy of the things it values. Clergymen, and people who think of themselves as decent human beings, need to take a look here. Journalists do, too.

almarst-2001 - 11:58am May 30, 2001 EST (#4333 of 4466)

ktaucer01 5/30/01 11:14am

"Very diplomatic those Euros."

As any good high-payed prostitute ought to behave when she sees a durty drunk ugly jerk ... with a big wallet.

almarst-2001 - 12:06pm May 30, 2001 EST (#4334 of 4466)

possumdag 5/30/01 8:42am

"Agent Orange"

May be this and the rest of US military strategy like nukes, napalm, DU munitions, terror of civilians, etc. can be explained by the posted above the almarst-2001 5/29/01 11:31pm - U.S. Department of State Strategic Plan (2000) - to "stabilize world population growth"?

gisterme - 12:06pm May 30, 2001 EST (#4335 of 4466)

almarst wrote: "...On China.

What a game! "just posturing"!..."

You have your opinion almarst, I have mine. Time will tell which is correct. :-)

rshowalt - 12:08pm May 30, 2001 EST (#4336 of 4466)

Careful, almarst , everybody has to make a living. . . . . and everybody has to be concerned with risks, as well. Gentle approaches surely beat fights very often.

And diplomacy, which keeps discourse going, has its virtues.

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