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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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wrcooper
- 05:52pm May 29, 2001 EST (#4299
of 4466)
Showalter:
I sent my letters on Friday. To Senators Durbin and Fitzgerald
and to Congressman Davis. I'll post whatever responses I get.
I am encouraged that Bush is trying to appease the Russians. That
shows that the administration is not entirely insensitive to
international opinion on the issue. He may need Russia's blessing
before he can get sufficient support in Congress.
I think it's particularly vital that opponents of the NMD contact
their representatives and make their opposition known.
rshowalt
- 06:15pm May 29, 2001 EST (#4300
of 4466)
I agree. And sign petitions, too !
I'm hoping to mail mine, with a home district postmark, when I
get back to Madison. I'd even hoped to improve on your letter, but
I'm not sure I can. Thanks for the reminder.
I might even like to go talk to some staffers, if they'd see me.
rshowalt
- 06:18pm May 29, 2001 EST (#4301
of 4466)
MD4293: almarst-2001
5/29/01 5:26pm
Tough question:
" Robert,
" What makes you to believe its just a "right
wing" problem?
" I see it as an American problem, left-to-right
and front-to-back. Please show me the difference, if you can.
***
The difference is that it was a conspiracy that subverted
one area of American function. And that one area coexists
only very uneasily with many other aspects of American culture and
ideals, which are admirable and causes of hope. -- Something I can
say without in any way diminishing the horror of some of what
America has done and become, when it acts as if bombing is a
blameless, casual act.
I'm going to have to go back, and get some records. And I'm stuck
in a motel room, without a printer, with a 24k modem connection,
which slows some things down.
Here are some links: MD3514: rshowalter
5/8/01 12:38pm . . .
" What are the lies, the missteps and who is
the very small extraconstitutional group?"
MD3424: rshowalter
5/7/01 4:11pm ... MD3425: rshowalter
5/7/01 4:17pm MD3426: rshowalter
5/7/01 4:18pm ... MD3427: rshowalter
5/7/01 4:21pm
I'll say this. There's a big difference between the "conspiracy"
now, and what it was in 1972, when I was insubordinate, stumbled
into it, and got thrown into purgatory. People like Bill Casey
knew that they were doing something terrible -- wanted to
find a redemptive way out of it, and actively encouraged me to look
for one (as well as to do do my mathematical work.) Casey's sense
was that, if I came up with either a mathematical solution, or a
negotiating solution -- I'd be embraced -- and even if it was
awkward, if I came in through the New York Times, a way would be
found.
Later (and admittedly, much later) - the sense of crime, and the
desire for redemption, seem to have gone away -- leaving little more
than Nazi values left. At least in some decisively placed circles.
Or so it often seems.
rshowalt
- 06:37pm May 29, 2001 EST (#4302
of 4466)
MD741: rshowalter
2/21/01 3:44pm ... MD742: rshowalter
2/21/01 4:02pm reads in part:
"I believe that everybody concerned about matters
of defense, and especially nuclear deployments, should consider
carefully the concerns about the “military-industrial complex” set
out in the FAREWELL ADDRESS of President Dwight D.
Eisenhower January 17, 1961. http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
" With circumstances that appear to show a
disproportion and operational mismatch between means and ends, the
speech seems to me to raise issues of crucial importance
today.
Eisenhower was CONCERNED with the patterns that he himself did
much to set up -- and warned the nation as best he could.
MD743: rshowalter
2/21/01 4:28pm
rshowalt
- 06:57pm May 29, 2001 EST (#4303
of 4466)
Folks may be riled, but this thread is useful, and these are
hopeful times:
MD4277 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?7@174.FldLagHvpdV^494261@.f0ce57b/4583
..... MD4278 rshowalt
5/29/01 2:33pm MD4279 rshowalt
5/29/01 2:38pm .... MD4280 gisterme
5/29/01 3:10pm MD4281gisterme
5/29/01 3:34pm
Note what gisterme says.
There's plenty of ugliness, but we're getting somewhere.
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