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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
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limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
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applez101
- 11:13am May 26, 2001 EST (#4228
of 4238)
Possumdag - are you willing to pay a fee to use this free
service? If so, the NYTimes may just consider it. :)
Furthermore, as a 'news' agency, there is something to the idea
that archiving reader's opinions is a bit redundant as fresh issues
abound. If you want this to happen, contact a contemporary
anthropology/sociology department in academia that is willing to do
that job and you may get what you want (even a finder's fee).
applez101
- 11:25am May 26, 2001 EST (#4229
of 4238)
Possumdag -
On nuclear fission -
To the contrary, fission is one of the more accurate 'true-cost'
accounted forms of power generation out there...with a $ figure
attached to every step from cradle to grave. Not so for fission
power, or even some renewables for that matter.
The storage costs can be quantified for the next 10K+ years
(depending on half-life of different scales of waste material) and
processes for safe storage (extensive HVAC equipment, vitrification,
etc.).
To be fair, the only part of fission that isn't accounted for
very well is the insurance against incidence of accident during the
life of the equipment. And given Chernobyl and Three Mile Island,
one can argue that this is a serious cost indeed (but one that can
be mitigated by good design, good construction, and continued
best-practices). BNFL and the Japanese nuclear authority also serve
as good examples of the risks associated with the full lifecycle of
this energy option.
Go to the Economist.com, they wrote an article on the costing of
fission power just this week.
rshowalter
- 11:42am May 26, 2001 EST (#4230
of 4238) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Does it have to be in academia? (Not that having it done in
academia isn't a fine idea. )
If if needs to be academy based, how about an english department
interested in discourse practices, or a library science department,
or a journalism department?
Does it necessarily have to be in academia?
I think this would be fine use of foundation grant funds.
What does archiving cost today? Not much, and the costs are going
down fast.
If I were paying something like the real cost of having all the
"Mysteries of the Universe" forums archived - with the old links
working times a reasonable multiple - I'd sure try to find the money
to do it. In storage space and labor, you're not talking much time,
or money, or load on your computer.
We've discussed archiving of discourse, connected to newspaper
stories, as a way of getting around the "culture of lying" fairly
extensively on this thread. I think it would be an important thing
to do, and could be a money-maker, and influence-enhancer for
newspapers.
applez101
- 12:04pm May 26, 2001 EST (#4231
of 4238)
Rshowalter - it doesn't have to be academia per se, but the
advantage is that an academic institution would be interested in the
archive directly and would provide it all at-cost...and may even
develop some useful search engines for it (next to gratis...amazing
what people will do for ink on paper that isn't money).
Also, an academic institution is probably the last to jettison an
archive if funding problems come around.
Any other organization would probably have higher costs and would
want to generate revenue from the investment.
Lastly, what needs to be recognized is that with the advent of
IT, even with falling archiving costs (cheaper hard drives,
inexpensive CDs & burners), the sheer volume of work will grow
exponentially and presents a cost that can spiral out of control.
One way of keeping that to a minimum is to edit what you archive,
but that induces a labor cost.
Again, academia has numerous 'market' advantages on these counts.
applez101
- 12:05pm May 26, 2001 EST (#4232
of 4238)
I would add that an anthropology/sociology archivist would want
to keep editing to a minimum, keeping maximum number of postings,
including whacko commentaries (perhaps especially those) to provide
a balanced record for academic use.
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