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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:06pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4070
of 4083) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I have a meeting to go to, and will be off, except perhaps for a
few postings, till Sunday night.
gisterme
- 08:21pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4071
of 4083)
rshowalter wrote: "...gisterme , I wonder how many people outside
the US can consider the strategy you describe as morally justified,
and I wonder how many US soldiers knowingly fight on that basis.
You seemed to object when I drew an analogy between US policy and
Nazi German policy. Why?..."
That strategy can't be morally justified by any sort of
peace-time standards. I believe the US really did want to see a
democracy established in South Viet Nam and sincerely expected to
win militarily at the beginning. I think a result something like
South Korea was expected. In almost every one of those cases listed
in the earlier post the economic purpose is only one of two or more
birds intended to be hit by a single stone.
You didn't draw an analogy between nazi and US policy, Robert.
You said the whole world thinks all Americans behave like Maj.
Strasser when they're abroad.
Don't confuse "drawing analogies" with "characterizaion of
peoples by stereotype". Such characterization really is nazi-like
behavior. I'm sure that not many Jews would disagree.
Why draw analogies about policies when you could really compare
policies? If you want to prove something, why not do that?
gisterme
- 08:25pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4072
of 4083)
rshowalter wrote: "...That isn't what you said before."
Sorry if I sort of glossed over what I meant by "tactical
defeat". We finally got it out didn't we?
gisterme
- 08:31pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4073
of 4083)
Out for today.
almarst-2001
- 08:55pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4074
of 4083)
gisterme
5/17/01 7:26pm
Poor applez...;)
gisterme, I am sorry, but your response does not stand up even to
the "works" of Mr.Friedman of the NYT.
You either pretend to or even worst, live in the fantasy. Almost
nothing of what you stated makes any sense to me. The logic you
presented in this post does not hold any water. I suggest you read
it yourself again, compare to my questions and count the
contradictions you have stated.
Was you too much in a hurry? Take your time... I am still planing
to be here for a while;)
Sorry.
applez101
- 10:52pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4075
of 4083)
No problem Gisterme, I'm kind of entertained seeing my virtual
ego take a life of its own! :)
Now, let me go back and see what's been said.
possumdag
- 11:42pm May 17, 2001 EST (#4076
of 4083) Possumdag@excite.com
America is for the 'concept' of free trade, yet practices a
degree of protectionism especially with regards to Agriculture.
possumdag
- 12:59am May 18, 2001 EST (#4077
of 4083) Possumdag@excite.com
Bwsh has had his way regarding:
Great for my Carlyle interests says oldDaddyBush!
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