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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 12:34am May 17, 2001 EST (#4024
of 4031)
On Imperial Powers.
When I compared the US to Imperial Powers I did not mean they are
the same.
What is similar is the intervention and influence in affairs and
lives of millions of people of other nations. Some times arrogant.
Some times brutal. Some times subtle and covert. Some times
military. Some times financial. Some times legal. Some times not so
legal. At the same time, the US would never allow any other nation
the same even to the slightest degree. This naturally creates at
lest the perception of an attempt to dictate and dominate. Which in
turn breeds the resentment and resistance. The US behavier is like
it is a second to God, the only holder of the truth and the only
judge having the right to issue the verdicts and punishments to all
other nations.
Not only is it not fair and holds a large degree of a double
standard, the question is "Why does it behave so, if not in a
self-interest?" After all, this is a very costly policy which must
be justified by US Government, even if not openly discussed and
approved by a general public. And if in a self-interest, "Is it
indifferent or against the other's nations interests?". Without
getting too deep into discussion of what and how the nation's
interest are defined, the following things are clear:
- The US has no right, nor the wisdom to judge and decide what is
in other's nations interests.
- The US bears no consequences for the human sufferings and
disasters resulted in it designs and actions abroad. Those people do
not vote in US. And if thinks turnes ugly or costly, the US has
always an option to retreat. That eliminates the need to be careful
and leaves just a single criteria: "The cost-benefits analysis for
the US "interests". Whatever they are and who is behind them.
From this perspective, there is no much of a difference from
Colonial Powers stand.
To argue one have to demonstrate the consistantly benevolent and
altruistic nature of US actions. As well as profound regret and
effort to rectify for the costly to other nations mistakes. One
should ask the simple question: "Whould the US behave the same way
on its own soul, not to mention to let some other nation to act so
in the US?"
almarst-2001
- 01:02am May 17, 2001 EST (#4025
of 4031)
On Military readiness.
While there may never be an absolute safety and always some way
to improve the nation's defence, there must be a criteria to justify
the size and the shape and posture of the nation's military.
This is usually based on a nation's geography and its relations
with its neighbors on the shared borders or within reach of
offensive wearpons.
As I mentioned before, the US military is in ever increasingly
offensive posture. Its declared aim is a "projection of power" as
far and as lethal it can get. What has it to do with the
self-defence? There is practically no place on earth, the US can't
bomb at any time and in no time. Or assamble a "rapid reaction
force", more powerful then most of the nation's total mobilization
force, within a weeks. How many nations can do the same to US? Who
is threatening whom and why?
The perception is, with MD, the US wants to eliminate the only
possible deterrance against its potential hostility, even using just
a conventional but effective enough wearpons, still able to destroy
the nation.
Can onyone declare the US would never, by its nature, able to
commit evil or unjustified or just wrong action, even by mistake?
The history does not support it. But even if it would, how can other
nations take for granted it will always be so and build their fate
and the future on such an assumptions? What would the US do in
their's place? Why do you think the others will not do or at least
try to do as US would in the same situation?
liberace3
- 04:28am May 17, 2001 EST (#4026
of 4031)
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rshowalter
- 05:52am May 17, 2001 EST (#4027
of 4031) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/17/opinion/17SAFI.html
Wow! Do you suppose they'd look at me for a job or a grant? For
reasons that are a little idiosyncratic, in some significant spots,
I'm lacking credentials. . . .
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almarst , your points are VERY well taken, and before I
adress them explicitly, let me post some things, that I feel are
related, that hook to today's news.
rshowalter
- 05:54am May 17, 2001 EST (#4028
of 4031) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Mistakes can be made, including big ones, and to sort them out
takes organized distrust, and staffing.
S.E.C. Accuses Former Sunbeam Official of Fraud by
FLOYD NORRIS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/business/16SEC.html?pagewanted=all
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