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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 09:20pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11932
of 11939)
SUS100 is a lot of cash!
lchic
- 09:24pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11933
of 11939)
How much truth, how much propagander, do Nation States offer
their people?
In China recently a 'national' watching tv burst out laughing
... the idology was saying .. people in Tibet have 3 cameras and a
car ... the national hadn't aquired even one camera - and could
see the suggestion was 'over the top' rediculous. Unbelievable.
Raises the point - what do we believe and swallow - and at what
point does the laugh factor of 'over the top' kick-in?
Nuclear weapons - totally redundant, unusable antiques are a
laugh factor .... the cry factor is the allocation of cash that
should be re-allocted for good - to satisfy REAL HUMAN NEEDS!
lchic
- 09:24pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11934
of 11939)
$US100 is a lot of cash!
manjumicha2001
- 09:28pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11935
of 11939)
I guess what I am trying to say is....US will get to where you
say it should go (or back to where it was before Bush got in) ONLY
after pushing things to the limit with NK.
It seems that is the pattern for each US administration. They
just can't stand dealing with NK as its equal negotiating partner.
In other words, pathos of a nation dictates its course of action
as much as the logics of the matter....it seems.
rshow55
- 09:43pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11936
of 11939)
100 billion dollars could make the world MUCH better -- if it
wasn't wasted.
But nukes are far worse than just "antiques" -- they are
dangerous - - and the more dangerous because they ARE antiques.
I didn't get REALLY committed and concerned about nukes until Oct
2000, when I found out that some codes I'd learned about in the 60's
and very early 70's were still in use. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1556
If you look at Rehearsing Doomssay -- the whole video --
you'll see stuff that looks like a time-warp -- 20 and 30 years old.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/democracy/nuclear/stories/nukes/index.html
The controls on this stuff are defective -- and the controls
could go off like a string of firecrackers -- that's OUR controls,
with the Russians having problems, too. http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/sermon.html
A while ago, I calculated that the risks were roughly at the
level of 3.5 WTC disasters per hour. Maybe not quite that
bad? Maybe, but also maybe worse. This mess should be fixed.
The "quality" of the "missile defense" programs may be an index
of the competence of the people involved in controlling our nuclear
missiles. md11896 rshow55
2/27/02 5:40pm Not encouraging.
lchic
- 09:55pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11937
of 11939)
Lawyers use statistics in courts .... because they sound good ...
and the opp.side usually have no comprehension regarding STATS.
Stats can sway a case.
Showalter obviously understands both stats and the implications
... perhaps if more understood them the urgency to get nukes down
would be overwhelming ....
To think that it's our Statistical-Ignorance that lets this
linger ....
When one MAD-nutter could push a finger ...
and pollute and kill the world we know.
rshow55
- 10:02pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11938
of 11939)
It isn't just the crazies - - though they scare the p*ss out of
me.
The hardware is old, too.
And there's a computer algorithm, used thousands or tens of
thousands of times - - - for all sorts of purposes (numerical
integration is basic, and general purpose) that is getting
MORE dangerous, as people are moving the step size down as
computation gets cheaper and faster.
We live in a world where, if anybody with influence objects,
no one checks anything.
And it is very dangerous.
I've been doing my best . . . MD10845 rshow55
1/17/02 3:28pm but hope God is on the side of world survival --
because we need all the help we can get.
Things need to be checked!
almarst-2001
- 10:55pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11939
of 11939)
The just released Wite House tapes releaved that Nixon was ready
to order the nuclear strikes against Vietnam, being stopped by
Kissinger.
Can any nation in the World afford placing its fate in the hands
of a couple of the "wise man" in Washington?
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