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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 12:21pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11916
of 11920)
Next point I'd like to make is one I also made on this thread and
elsewhere after September 11th. There is time to think things
through, and get things right. It looks to me like there is plenty
of room for solution -- a lot of things that might work -- but
whether or not that's true, there's time to survey the situation.
And find out things about how it actually is that matter for action.
Suppose the United States said the following, clearly and
definitely, to the nations of the world.
The United States has decided that it will not
permit Iran, Iraq, N. Korea, or (phrase here) to threaten the
United States, or its allies, with weapons of mass destruction.
Please comment. For us to get this, what would you expect from us?
The insert in (phrase here) above might be "any private group" or
"any nation."
What would the representatives of other nations say? Would the
responses be uncoordinated, or impossible to meet? Not necessarily.
What would they settle for? ... What could we reasonably ask
them to settle for, if decisions reached in the end were "on the
record" -- and we wanted STABLE results?
I think that these questions are a lot easier than the challenges
of missile defense - - because they are likely to have satisfactory
answers. I don't think anyone has to be sentimental at all to
believe so.
rshow55
- 12:25pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11917
of 11920)
Here's a fact. Anybody who has studied military matterns ought to
know it. Consider two groups, weapons drawn, confronting each other.
In order for a surrender or a peace or a defeat
to occur with stability, there has to be clear communication,
and for things to work, people who fear and distrust each other have
to deal with each other with good enough stability so that things
don't fall apart.
Taking down hostilities is touchy, and things can very easily
fall apart.
Clear communication is vital.
There is no substitute for it -- because stable solutions are
hard to get -- impossible if (very many) wrong moves are made.
rshow55
- 12:32pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11918
of 11920)
The "simple" asymptotic solution where one side exterminates the
other is distasteful, and also generally impractical. Morality
counts, but even if it didn't, you want an end of hostilities where
the survivors can and do go on with their lives, and interact, when
they have to, peacefully.
rshow55
- 01:11pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11919
of 11920)
There are basic human needs, and knowing them gives a sense of
both how we are strong, and how we are fragile. And how our enemies
are strong, and how they are fragile. We are MUCH stronger, and less
fragile, than our enemies if we just play it straight, on issues of
fact and straight dealing, and do things that make military sense.
Including things needed for effective deterrance, and effective
interdiction.
The tragedy of September 11 probably wouldn't have happened if
people in the world had believed that we had usable, flexible,
calibrated, powerful deterrants. And given the risks, interdiction
as part of the mix of humanly reasonable options can't be ruled out
either.
Here are some basic, universal relationships that we need to take
into account -- and that make our opportunities clear.
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs by
William G. Huitt Essay and Image: http://chiron.valdosta.edu/whuitt/col/regsys/maslow.html
also listed, with comments, in rshowalter
9/24/01 11:05am
Berle's Laws of Power from Power by Adolf A. Berle . . .
1969 ... Harcourt, Brace and World, N.Y. set out in MD1066 rshowalter
3/16/01 5:36am
These things are very important constraints - -
considering them simplifies things, by ruling out a good deal.
Consideration also gives a sense of what can reasonably be done.
(What can be done at reasonable cost is a subset of what can
be explained to the world community.)
We may have to use the force we have - - but ideas also matter.
Berle's laws of power include this
Three: Power is invariably based on a system of
ideas of philosophy. Absent such a system or philosophy, the
institutions essential to power cease to be reliable, power ceases
to be effective, and the power holder is eventually displaced.
Our ideas and ideals, when we live up to them , are
vigorous. To the extent that we're not living up to them, we have
some work to do --- not very difficult work, if faced. The system of
"ideas" that the terrorists, Iraq, and N. Korea have, are
contradictory and fragile. Iran has its logical fragilities, too.
Those pressure points at the level of ideas can be powerful --
they'd be overwhelmingly powerful if we had most of the world
behind us. As a nation we need to understand, more clearly than we
do, why so many in the world are not behind us.
We are looking for stable solutions, with acceptable
(minimal) risks to ourselves and others. We can't minimize our risks
without considering the needs of other people, long term -- because
other people are dangerous animals, as we are ourselves.
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