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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 11:02pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11902
of 11911)
Radio can be used for GOOD
If it's informative
If it gives people answers education and hope
If it fulfils their needs satisfies their thirst enables
them to grow
Folks can smell propaganda They KNOW!
rshow55
- 11:07pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11903
of 11911)
Radio Free Europe has had a pretty good reputation over the
years.
I think it would be safer and better if the US did not lie -- and
many other Americans think so too. Though there could be
inconveniences, they'd be small. (Getting rid of the missile defense
boondoggle would be one "inconvenience" -- but a boon to the
nation.)
But where would Hussien, and some other dictators be, if
they were subjected to truth? They'd be weakened, and might
fold.
HONEST radio might be good politics for America, and just, as
well.
lchic
- 11:15pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11904
of 11911)
Radio should be the 'voice' of the people -- the targeted
audience. Excuse while i tune in to Radio Boondoggle ..
Ssshhh! Aaargggh! Interesting ... Boondoggle dance music is easy
listening too ...
rshow55
- 11:20pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11905
of 11911)
It is harder to do the "de-boondoggle" . . . But that can be
beautiful music.
Journalist often can help with such "deconstructions." . . .
"Let me set out a schema, in a form tinged with the sort of
"political incorrectness" that often makes things memorable in a
low-down sort of way. It is one of my favorite limericks, and
perhaps the cleanest.
A fa**ot one night in Rangoon Took a lesbian up to
his room. They turned out the light, But
argued all night, Who'd do what, and with
which, and to whom.
"As stated, a nice schema-exemplar for unconsummated negotiation
among free actors -- and if one is not offended by the language or
innuendo -- easy to imagine, and neither logically nor morally
complicated.
"Here are the last two lines, with with a tense change, so that
"do" becomes "done" . Now, the result, though still easy to imagine
as an exemplar of human function, is both logically and morally
complicated.
(They) argued all night,
Who'd done what .. and with which .... and to
whom.
The not-yet-done is undetermined, or at the discretion of actors.
The present is . For those beyond quantum limits, reality
is ... that is, in a sense that is operationally important,
reality is fixed, and independent of opinions.
The past, which is the sequence of present moments that are now
past, must logically be fixed in the same way.
And yet, for real people, what we can know of the past is a
construction. What do we owe to the notion of "truth" in
the past -- and why does it matter -- and how do we determine what
to believe?
We can find answers that make the risks of the nuclear age far,
far less than they have been, and far far less than they are now.
That depends on finding good answers, of disciplined beauty, in
terms of facts that are real --- and in an essential sense, that
means being able to "nail down" key issues about the facts of the
past.
We have to find good, fair, workable ways to nail down those
facts. I think, muddled and messy as things might be, that we should
insist of facts, more than we have before. If we did, I think the
world would be better and safer.
And as Almarst suggests -- we should watch the oil.
... MD3871 almarst-2001
5/14/01 10:32pm
rshow55
- 11:25pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11906
of 11911)
So far, no contesting what I said in MD11896 rshow55
2/27/02 5:40pm . . where I indicated (not to put too fine a
point on it) that at the tactical levels that ought to matter, the
US missile defense programs are, in Menken's phrase
" As devoid of merit as a herringfish is of
fur."
out.
lchic
- 11:41pm Feb 27, 2002 EST (#11907
of 11911)
Watching OIL Is watching POWER Watching POWER Is
watching PLAYERS Is watching BANK ACCOUNTS m o v e
Watching OIL Should be watching REASON Should be REASONED
Power With responsible DO GOOD Do Good for people
REASONED RESPONSIBLE STRATEGIES
Watching OIL Stirring oil for COLOURS Should be aesthetic
visual pleasure POWER can be aesthetic When used to promote
THE PEOPLE
lchic
- 12:44am Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11908
of 11911)
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar7.html
lchic
- 06:33am Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11909
of 11911)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,659080,00.html
lchic
- 06:37am Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11910
of 11911)
~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,659080,00.html
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