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rshow55
- 12:14pm Feb 18, 2002 EST (#11606
of 11624)
Americans value good things for themselves, and those they care
about. Do they care about the feelings of their "enemies" -- about
their griefs -- about their losses?
MD1562-1563 rshowalter
3/26/01 9:14pm
NORTH KOREA, TV NATION http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/26/opinion/26WORK.html
.... by Russell Working reveals a pathetic, if dangerous culture. A
culture so weak, it hardly seems that it could be a major challenge
to us.
Of the three million "communists" killed in the Korean war, 2
million were Korean civilians killed by American fire raids and dam
bombing. So far as I know, no American leader has ever ventured
to regret it.
These tragic deaths are no secret. In DARK SUN: The Making of
the Atomic Bomb Pulitzer Prize winning author Richard Rhodes
documents that
" US firebombing of North Korean cities and the
bombing of large dams killed more than two million civilians."
Could it be that after that injury, for that ancestor
worshiping culture, with the outrage and desecration as it was,
the Koreans could not make peace, on the terms given to them?
Especially with us the allies of the hated Japanese?
Might emotions (not necessarily irrational emotions) be key to an
impasse now half a century old, that has been gruesomely expensive
to all sides?
That might explain a lot. It would also indicate that North Korea
is a human tragedy that deserves careful, redemptive attention --
not more harshness toward a country that may simple have been
immobilized by an injury that we inflicted.
If people, threatened enough, or injured enough, fight to the
death -- then might we not be doing it wrong, very wrong, in our
dealings with North Korea, and perhaps in our dealings with Iraq as
well. A number of Europeans, and Arab leaders, and people elsewhere
in the world, aren't convinced of our wisdom in these matters.
What would happen if, among other messages, we sent a message,
backed up in some sincere way, that we really did regret the deaths
of the past?
What if it were true? If American leaders exercised leadership to
point out some key facts, it would be true.
Could we do that? If not, perhaps there are some things wrong
with American values -- by standards reasonably held elsewhere in
the world.
rshow55
- 12:16pm Feb 18, 2002 EST (#11607
of 11624)
An editorial today is Reviving Korean Diplomacy http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/18/opinion/_18MON3.html
President Bush should use his visit with President
Kim Dae Jung of South Korea to reinforce Mr. Kim's engagement
policy toward North Korea.
Do we know how to do that? Do we really know how the North
Koreans feel, and what they'd need, in emotional as well as other
practical terms (emotions are very practical) to make peace? Surely
we can't effectively threaten them or impoverish them any more than
we have already.
Again, if we do not know these things, if we have not thought
carefully about these things, perhaps there are some things wrong or
incomplete about American values in action. Things that Americans
themselves ought to want to remedy.
rshow55
- 12:47pm Feb 18, 2002 EST (#11608
of 11624)
Any decent answer to the question
"What is America's Vision for the next few decades?"
would have to be an answer that fit values and ideals that
Americans in Eisenhower's time, and ours, hold dear, and are proud
of.
There are things that have happened, that Eisenhower was
concerned about, and warned of, that stand in conflict with the
things we hold dear, and are proud of.
They may well have been necessary during the Cold War, but the
Cold War should be over . . . not only for the rest of the world,
but for us, too.
We need an effective defense.
One that works well in practical terms, and that we can explain
to each other and to other nations, as well.
Circumstances where we perpetuate missile threats from North
Korea, to provide excuses for huge frauds at home, are no credit to
us, and should be questioned by Americans, and others, all over the
world, who have to care about the decisions we make, and the reasons
we give for them.
mazza9
- 02:26pm Feb 18, 2002 EST (#11609
of 11624) Louis Mazza
RShow55:
The fact that Korea is developing missile technology and selling
it to Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan is well documented.
North
Korea's Friends?
Yes, Our diplomacy with regards to North Korea has been weak at
best. Korea was the first Cold War test of our concept of freedom of
determination. Was President Truman correct in adopting a course not
supported by our Allies? Was the containment policy the right
policy? A recent CSPAN presentation of Michael Beschloss's new book
on Eisenhower's letters suggests that not only did Ike warn against
the "Military Industrial Complex" but he also was focused on
reducing nuclear stock piles, (didn't happen. JFK and LBJ went the
other way, maybe because of Korea and then Viet Nam) and a nuclear
test ban treaty.
Would that diplomacy and international relations were simple.
LouMazza
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