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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 04:13pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11338
of 11350)
"The exercise would be in the interest of essentially all
credible stakeholders involved.
"Including, and perhaps especially including, the officers and
elected officials concerned in the administration, and the
contractors.
For instance, could Boeing and TRW possibly make enough
money on ABL to compensate them, as corporate entities, for the
embarrassment of collecting billions of dollars after it was
clear that they were working on equipment that had no chance of
working?
Similar questions apply to the other contractors.
Everybody understands mistakes. But mistakes, once seen, have to
be corrected, and the consequences dealt with. If they are papered
over, especially in organized and plainly deceptive ways -- the word
"mistake" comes to be replaced with another one.
gisterme
- 06:07pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11339
of 11350)
vhurtado
2/7/02 3:01pm
"...There is little incentive for a terrorist group or a
developing country to use long-range missiles. Other means of
delivery are less expensive, more reliable, and can deliver much
larger payloads more accurately than long-range missiles..."
That's true unless the missiles are armed with WMD. Nobody argues
much that Iraq, Iran and North Korea are working very hard to
develop long range missiles and WMD. Even though their use of
long range missiles may seem illogical from your point of view and
mine, apparently it does not from theirs. Otherwise, Iraq and N.
Korea wouldn't be starving their people to acquire those things.
I agree with you completely that we need to do much more to
insure that means of WMD delivery other than ballistic missiles are
defended against. In fact, I'm sure much is being done right now.
The more time that goes by, the stronger our defense against those
methods will be. However, it seems kind of silly to bar the door but
leave the windows open...especially when we know that potential
adversaries are working hard to get the tools necessary to come in
through the windows.
So there are two very real threats, one is current, the other
will be in the near future.
It seems unwise to wait until our adversaries have WMD-armed
ballistic missiles before we begin developing a defense against
them. As you've said, the MD technology under development won't be
ready for a while even if we give it full effort. I just hope we
haven't waited too long already.
Even though I doubt that you'd argue about his motives, why would
a guy like Saddam Hussein launch a missile at a US or European city?
Wouldn't he expect to be annihilated himself if he did that? Not if
he did it by use of a proxy like Al Qieda. That's just a different
application of stealth.
Would the US or any nuclear-armed nation annihilate a nation of
mostly innocent people just to try to kill one guilty guy even
though he were responsible for the slaughter of a million of our
own? I hope not.
rshow55
- 06:14pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11340
of 11350)
gisterme, vhurtado
2/7/02 3:01pm makes the point:
"...There is little incentive for a terrorist
group or a developing country to use long-range missiles. Other
means of delivery are less expensive, more reliable, and can
deliver much larger payloads more accurately than long-range
missiles..."
Isn't that just as true when weapons of mass destruction are
involved?
rshow55
- 06:18pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11341
of 11350)
gisterme:
"It seems unwise to wait until our adversaries have WMD-armed
ballistic missiles before we begin developing a defense against
them."
What's wrong with interdiction? We know how to do it - and, as
Weinberg points out, it seems much more reliable than a BMD that is
only barely plausible.
rshow55
- 06:20pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11342
of 11350)
With diplomacy, if the threats are N. Korea, Iran, and Iraq,
would interdiction be so hard?
With diplomacy, would they be necessary?
gisterme
- 07:39pm Feb 7, 2002 EST (#11343
of 11350)
rshow55
2/7/02 6:14pm
"...Isn't that just as true when weapons of mass destruction
are involved?"
From our logical point of view it might seem that way Robert; but
apparently not from theirs. Otherwise why wouldn't they be feeding
their people rather than using the resources to try to get ballistic
missiles instead. That's exactly what I said in the post you
referenced. Can't you read?
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