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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 10:45am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11057
of 11065)
A technical achievement, that surely represents much hard work
from many people, but an approach that may have no military function
at all - because the success showed has to be combined with
many other difficult things.
from http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,1271,-1473730,00.html
"Friday's planned test was the first to send an
interceptor fired from a ship at sea into space to collide with a
dummy missile. Other tests have used interceptor rockets launched
from land.
"The latest test was designed so that the
anti-missile "kinetic warhead" was virtually guaranteed to smash
into the dummy missile.
But to what purpose?
"Critics say the missile defence programme is too
expensive and unrealistic, arguing that the few countries with
the technology to threaten America could find ways to defeat
missile defences.
These "few countries" could find ways to defeat missile defenses,
and do so easily. The lasar weapons approaches to MD are all
defeated by reflective coatings -- including easily available gold
coated mylar, in wide use in the space program since the 1960's.
With higher reflectances than gold leaf has shown for 5000 years
possible (with and probably without metal reflectors incorporated.)
We also know that coatings to much reduce radar reflection (stealth
coatings) have been long used, and are on Russian made missiles now
being retired. Hybrids aren't just possible, but inevitable --
because they are vastly cheaper and technically easier than the
missile defenses they defeat.
"Rocket science" has been going on a long time. The risks are
clear and present - and we have to deal with them in ways that can
work.
From today's http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/26/international/asia/26INDI.html
India Tests Missile, Stirring a Region Already on Edge by
CELIA W. DUGGER
Mr. Santhanam said the political leadership
gave the go- ahead to develop a missile
with a 400- mile range only 15 months ago to
fill a perceived gap. "The technologies are mature," he
said.
"India's defense minister, George Fernandes, who
went this morning to a range on Wheeler's Island off the coast of
the eastern state of Orissa to witness the test flight, described
it as "flawless."
We simply have to make realistic judgements about what can be
done. I don't believe that there is a single MD approach, either
outlined to the public, or on the drawing board, that can reasonably
be expected to work tactically.
We'll need international cooperation to control these weapons.
Which means we have to be reasonable and law abiding
outselves.
rshow55
- 10:53am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11058
of 11065)
mazza9
1/25/02 11:16pm the procedures, patterns, and levels of honesty
shown by Enron were spectacularly successful, and even much
praised, for a long time. Then, suddenly, the success collapsed.
I'm extraordinarily concerned about nuclear safety. For reasons
much discussed on this thread before. I have plenty of reason --
somewhat reinforced by your dialog, and by the "enronnation"
of missile defense and related issues, here and elsewhere.
mazza9
- 11:05am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11059
of 11065) Louis Mazza
ichic:
No one has been murdered by the nuclear power industry.
RShow55: The Indian rocket that was tested yesterday had all the
"markings" that are used for photographing and analyzing the lift
off. Indeed, those markings, (not your alleged foil), are included
in the manufacturing process. An easy target for lasers, which do
work. Ask yourself, would you allow yourself to be encapsulated in
foil and then allow an ABL to target you from 50 miles away? My
prediction-RShow55 soup!
LouMazza
lchic
- 11:07am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11060
of 11065)
The Enron matters are supposedly in clear, in the open, in front
of the people .... but they aren't!
lchic
- 11:08am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11061
of 11065)
mAzzA - ever been to the UKRAINE?
lchic
- 11:14am Jan 26, 2002 EST (#11062
of 11065)
""In the Ukraine, the major-general continued, no safe conditions
for the storage of nuclear warheads existed. The number of war heads
stored in one store-room exceeded the norm by three to five times.
Due to these circumstances, also the environment was exposed to
higher radiation. "Isvestija" also reported on the results of a
study on strategical nuclear missiles of the SS-24 type, stationed
in an army division near the southern Ukrainian city of Pervomaisk.
At 15 combat-ready launching platform, the deadline for the
necessary maintenance checks were exceeded by eight to ten months.
Another three strategic combat missiles would simply stop to
function within two months. Russian military officials noted that
the dangerous conditions the weapons were in had only started after
the Ukraine had agreed to take over the control on them.
Kiev had said that it would take care of the maintenance of the
weapons as well as the costs connected to that, until the question
of whose country the weapons belong to was being resolved. The
necessary amount of money to be spend on the taking care of the
weapons has not been spend yet, as the Ukraine does simply not have
the resources to maintain the launching platforms and the nuclear
warheads.
From Nikitin's point of view, not all the faults can be corrected
again. "Some technical processes are irreversible already. The only
possibility now is to bring the warheads and missiles which need to
undergo maintenance work urgently into secured conditions."
'Isvestija' states that at this time, 176 missile silos containing
some 1250 nuclear warheads as well as 130 old SS-19 and 46 new SS-24
missiles. "" http://www.antenna.nl/wise/390/3804.html
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