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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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good_guy
- 11:34pm Dec 26, 2001 EST (#10537
of 10657)
Good Guy aka Atheist Bill:
ATTEN, IDENBADE:
Dead letter office
Heil Bush,
Dear Gruppenfuhrer Byrd,
Congratulations you have just been awarded the Vidkun Quisling
Award for 2001. Your name will now live throughout history with such
past award winners as Marcus Junius Brutus, Judas Iscariot, Benedict
Arnold, Vidkun Quisling and last years winner Volksjudge Wilhelm
Rehnquist.
With your vote to allow Herr Ashcroft to take command of the
Gestapo we will soon certainly put those Darkies and Jews back in
their place und make Jesus das King.
Along with this award there will be an Iron Cross 2nd class
presented by our glorious Fuehrer Herr Bush at a gala party in das
Fuehrer Bunker, formerly the White House on 4-1-2001.
We salute you Herr Byrd! Sieg Heil!
Signed,
Deputy Fuehrer Cheney
Heil Bush ================================================
Tho the above may be a bit dated, but it is relevant, and you can
read how the Bush/Walker family helped Hitler and Nazi Germany,
before, during and after WW II. While punks like you disparage
liberals and other decent Americans. Anyway, you may read about your
anti-American Fascist, Nazi heroes HERE
Bill
oldfarmboy
- 11:47pm Dec 26, 2001 EST (#10538
of 10657)
Read TIME about loose nukes in Russia. Who needs this costly
missile defense, what a waste of money, but a treat for Bush's
buddies in the defense industry. If a terrorist got a nuke, he
wouldn't need a missile for it, and our system would be a big fat
waste of money.
lchic
- 01:14am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10539
of 10657)
Interesting how guys written off as No Hope-ers can be
reabilitated into Reading Arabic by the singleMinded .. problem is
.. they probably still can't read English, and wouldn't understand
the safety precautions to be undertaken when dealing with
radioactive materials.
wanderer85us
- 07:14am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10540
of 10657) I hear voices, and they don't like the GOP.
NMD is frankly insane at this juncture, and Bush is frankly a
nitwit.
mazza9
- 10:21am Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10541
of 10657) Louis Mazza
Ichic:
I was assigned to a SAC Bomb Wing in the early 70's and was privy
to the SIOP, (THE PLAN). I saw hell every day and know far better
than you what MAD is all about.
In the martial arts defense is the philosophy which brings calm
and confidence. This is why missile defense is not crazy as some of
you espouse.
MAD - a 20 x 20 mile section of the earth where more than 500
nuclear weapons are employed to fashion an escape corrider for
B-52s.
NMD - A defensive posture which allows for the draw down of
offensive weapons, and maybe, eventually to their total disposal. I
know which path I would rather follow.
LouMazza
lchic
- 12:53pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10542
of 10657)
... even so the reality seems to be that minds 'perverted' to a
cause don't sit inside the international political framework ... and
with simple tools can create havoc ...
So while folks working within highly funded projects may have
high philosophy and ideals as their reason d'etre, the
reality can be Chaos reigns.
So the further reality has to be what LouMazza .. what things
should be taken into consideration to make the/your/my world a safer
place?
And by the way: It's 'L' with Chic .. Elle Chic ... got it
... small point of detail - that makes me wonder if you really
worked the assignments you suggest.
mazza9
- 01:12pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10543
of 10657) Louis Mazza
Elle Chic:
I was assigned to the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot AFB. I was the base
Top Secret Control Officer and I remember the first time I picked up
the deck of 150 IBM cards at the communications center and carried
it to the 91st Strategic Missile Wing on Minot AFB. I remember
looking through the deck and noticed that what I carried was the
targeting information for each of our 150 Minuteman Missiles.
You don't want to believe? So be it. I was there and you weren't.
I can assure you that every person took their jobs seriously and
prayed that the plan would never have to be implemented.
I remember when President Nixon mined Haiphong Harbor. We went to
Defon 2 and the pucker factor was extremely high.
LouMazza
lchic
- 01:25pm Dec 27, 2001 EST (#10544
of 10657)
... even so the reality seems to be that minds 'perverted' to a
cause don't sit inside the international political framework ... and
with simple tools can create havoc ...
So while folks working within highly funded projects may have
high philosophy and ideals as their reason d'etre, the
reality can be Chaos reigns.
So the further reality has to be what LouMazza .. what things
should be taken into consideration to make the/your/my world a safer
place?
I checked out the martial arts for philosophy - these are at the
level of the 'individual' .. the philosopy related to MD maight be
Political Strategy at Nation to Nation level .. in Chinese
Philosophy terms - The ART of WAR .. where everyone tries to be a
victor.
Martial Arts Philosophy - from unattributed links :
The philosophy must be understood on two levels, both from a
simplistic standpoint and from an intellectual position.
In the book Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny, he presents an
admonition on something called the Nameless. The argument goes
something like this. If I try to describe a fire to a man who has
never seen a fire I may tell him many things without truly
conveying what fire is. I may say that it ripples like water, but
it is not water. I may say that it is like an animal that eats
wood and excretes ashes, yet it is nothing like an animal. Until a
man has seen a fire and perceived the Nameless reality of it he
may not truly understand it. The words get in the way. So what one
should do is contemplate the Nameless.
Ki is a natural thing. Everyone has it. It is inextricably
interlinked with breathing. But this is no surprise. Respiration
powers the body. To put it simply the exercise of ki is simply
your mind's ability to access and control portions of the body
that are normally known as involuntary. ARTofWAR &
strategy: http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/suntzu.htm
It's 'L' with Chic .. Elle Chic ...
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