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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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Wordspayyy
- 02:26pm Dec 20, 2001 EST (#10453
of 10657)
Ps,
I notice that you do not read the subjects being discussed. For I
never "threw" in my education level. I only stated it;0 ..
My former nicks have been becq, Assadsyria, Albanystate, among
others.
Let me provide you with some of my previouse positions on the
matter;0
going back;0
Wordspayyy
- 02:32pm Dec 20, 2001 EST (#10454
of 10657)
Ps,
I notice that you do not read the subjects being discussed. For I
never "threw" in my education level. I only stated it;0 ..Time and
time again I present the arguement wihout just stating name,
academic skill and social security number. But indeed, you again
have demonstrated how it is for some reason scornfull to actually
hold a professional degree on the subject;0 My former nicks have
been becq, Assadsyria, Albanystate,sumofallfears, evenbetta,
longisland, among others.Let me provide you with some of my
previouse positions on the matter;0 As you will find they do not
waiver.
going back;0
Wordspayyy
- 02:37pm Dec 20, 2001 EST (#10455
of 10657)
longiiland - 09:59am Jun 9, 2000 EST (#52 of 10454)
I am glad to see that a forum now exists for the discussion of
this topic.
By perusing a concept that attempts to survive nuclear warfare
you give nuclear warfare a ‘chance’. That ‘chance’ of survival
destroys the very essence of the worldwide deterrence model. That is
why the international community has overwhelmingly tipped the scales
in opposition to this system. That is why SALT I and the ABM
protocols exist between the two largest nuclear powers. Deployment
of such a system embraces the theoretical perspective of Nuclear
Utilization Theory. It may not be the intent of those who deploy-but
every rational state views the system as a total embrace of a theory
designed to win a nuclear war. That perspective (NUTS)(grin) implies
that not only will nuclear war be fought-but it mussed be fought to
survive and win. In such a pursuit, you lower conventional warfare
thresholds and lower the crossover points at which conventional
conflict goes into nuclear conflict. This is due to the very fact
that one has added a chance to something in which no chance existed
prior. You cannot posture yourself against the irrational actor- the
minority of this world. Doing so only requires the majority if this
world (rational actors) to balance against your own actions. You
cannot thwart the irrational actor because the irrational actor has
no limits or boundaries. The very name implies that the irrational
actor is impossible to deter. As noted by the CIA of May 19th 00,
the terminology of ‘rogue’ state has no significant in the course of
debate regarding missile deference because ‘rouge’ implies that such
states are irrational and every state America has labeled rouge is
rational. The rational/irrational actor model is core issue
regarding deterrence. As the CIA pointed out, rouge state has ‘more
political significance then true value to the structure of
deterrence’. In short the largest nuclear power embarking on the
deployment of a system designed to survive nuclear strikes creates
the impetus for every rational actor, depost to allie to do the
same. All at varying levels of technological development all at
varying levels of effiencey. In doing so-you destroy nuclear
deterrence-the very concept that has maintained no use of nuclear
weapons against states since 1945. If one recalls our operational
experience in Desert Storm is that while missile defense did not
work very well, deterrence did work very well. Saddam Hussein had
poison gas-tipped Scuds that were available for launch at the time
of the war, and he did not use them. Subsequently, after the U.S.
military interrogated some defectors and some captured Iraqi
leaders, it became clear why not: Saddam Hussein did not want to get
blown up. Before the war, the United States, Britain, France and
Israel had all stated, both publicly and privately, that if he was
the first to use weapons of mass destruction, he would not be the
last to use weapons of mass destruction. Saddam Hussein and his
kindred despots in other countries that we are worried about have
not survived for extended periods of time by being stupid or
careless. They are ruthless and cruel and sometimes reckless, but
they don't remain in power, despite our repeated attempts in the
case of Saddam Hussein to dislodge him, by being careless about the
survival of their regime. Saddam Hussein understood very well that
if he initiated the use of weapons of mass destruction, our
retaliation would annihilate his regime. So the notion that missile
defense is the only bulwark we have against weapons of mass
destruction attacks from these regimes simply flies in the face of
our actual experience, in which deterrence has worked very well and
missile defense has not worked very well at all.
Wordspayyy
- 02:38pm Dec 20, 2001 EST (#10456
of 10657)
longiiland - 09:59am Jun 9, 2000 EST (#52 of .
So the notion that missile defense is the only bulwark we have
against weapons of mass destruction attacks from these regimes
simply flies in the face of our actual experience, in which
deterrence has worked very well and missile defense has not worked
very well at all.
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