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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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armel7
- 12:38pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10396
of 10657) Science/Health Forums Host
lchic:How many 'off topic' posts to come ... ?
Indeed. I appreciate the good crowd here, but please let's keep
this forum on MD. There is much to discuss on that subject.
Your host, Michael Scott Armel
egypt46
- 12:51pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10397
of 10657)
food not bombs is something that comes to mind. we could also
invest some of the defense budget into social security. i am sure
some senior citizens might want that. i know bush talked about using
the budget surplus to pay for this great program. wait, there is no
surplus. i know we are in a slump post- september 11, but i think
more about that trillion dollar tax cut that favors people that make
over 150,000 per year.
this move makes no sense and shows we have no accountabilty in
the global community as well. just last week we scoffed at the 1972
biological warfare convention in bonn last week. strange, how we
want saddam to let un inspectors check out his arsenal, when we
won't anyone to check ours. i am not confusing the missile treaty
with the biological warfare convention. both were recently forsaken
and have great implications on future conflicts.
armel7
- 03:19pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10398
of 10657) Science/Health Forums Host
News:Behind-the-scenes
agreement with Putin on withdrawl?
Your host, Michael Scott Armel
artnanna
- 04:33pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10399
of 10657)
I heard Secretary Rumsfeld imply that missile counts grew because
of the ABM treaty and are now falling because of its demise. I think
that's rubbish. Missile force levels were decreasing long before
Messrs. Bush et al came to power.
wbtake1
- 05:11pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10400
of 10657)
Seems like my source was right about Mr. Putin!
gazoga
- 05:51pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10401
of 10657)
How does MD technology not spread and make the world more
dangerous not less?
gazoga
- 05:54pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10402
of 10657)
This is a totally offensive move. Creating orbital weapons of
mass distruction. Best D is a good O?! Something else is going on
here. It is not being voiced, but there's too much capital being
spent on an unworkable plan. Ergo, it's a misdirection.
gazoga
- 05:56pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10403
of 10657)
Has anyoned answered the question about whether the Senate has a
role in abrogating treaties, as they do in ratifying them?
jimiraj
- 08:12pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10404
of 10657)
The treaty was o.k. at one time.But it,s time for a new treaty
with the new nation of Russia,since the Soviet Union is gone.But it
should be one that allows,for more effort towards defense.Than just
offense.Because many things that have changed.Things are more
unstable than they where then.With more countrys with nukes.Than in
1972.Plus where as we could more easily predict what the Soviets
might do,it,s harder to tell what some of this other coutrys might
do.
btsoap
- 09:21pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10405
of 10657)
It's probably been said:
Does the threat justify the expense? Will the system be effective
enough to make a difference? Would we be better off spending the
money on public transit and energy research to free us from the
dependence on oil from the Middle East?
The less money in the pockets of the rulers of the Middle East,
the less political power and manuevering that can cause us misery.
They currently sell us oil, use the money to oppress their people,
and deflect the hatred from the masses onto the U.S.
Of course, if we don't reduce the demand for battleship-sized
single-driver vehicles, we shouldn't gripe about others not liking
"our way of life."
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