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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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wbtake1
- 11:51am Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10387
of 10657)
BTW- one of America's biggest peaceniks "Neil Young" is for WAR
with these Talaban types!
Here you go:
Thursday, Dec. 13, 2001
Pro-Bush Neil Young Shocks Leftists
The left-wing group that calls itself People for the American Way
got the shock of its life when it honored peacenik Canadian rocker
Neil Young - and he said President Bush's anti-terrorism measures
were necessary.
"We can't forget what brought us together and what we're living
for, what makes us who we are, even though to protect freedom it
seems that we're going to have to relinquish some of our freedoms
for a short period of time," Young said Tuesday at the
limousine-liberal group's annual dinner in (where else?) Beverly
Hills.
More than a few eyebrows were raised, Reuters news agency
reported Wednesday.
"It is a law that we get a chance to get them back. It's very
important not to forget that.
"It's a tough time for all of us who believe in a certain way of
life to come to grips with the fact that we have to kind of make a -
what do you call it - this word's hard for me - I think it's -
compromise. That's right. But it's temporary, and we can't forget
that it's temporary. We're going to do the job, and then we're going
to get back to being who we are."
Young, who received the outfit's "Spirit of Liberty lifetime
achievement award," recently had the blame-America-first left
grumbling when he recorded the song ''Let's Roll'' as a tribute to
the doomed passengers who overpowered their hijackers over
Pennsylvania on Sept. 11.
Matt Stone and Trey Parker, creators of ``South Park'' and the
failed "That's My Bush!" sitcom, also had the whine-and-cheese GWLs
(Guilty White Liberals) gasping when Parker said they were proud
Republicans.
``It's true," said Parker, dressed in a garish stars-and-stripes
suit.
egypt46
- 11:51am Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10388
of 10657)
rather than worry about the cost of missile defense and health
care, why don't just change our policy? why not exploit the
resources of other countries, while supporting despotism on the part
of our allies? why not demand that we seek reconciliation and get to
the root of the problem. weapons will never bring peace, o my
brothers!
lchic
- 12:02pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10389
of 10657)
the failed "That's My Bush!" Failed .. it was a
'classic' !
general_slocum
- 12:08pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10390
of 10657)
if all disputed ballots had been manually
counted—Al Gore could have eked out a narrow victory.
........That, at least, is how the story got played last week in
front page stories in The New York Times, Washington Post and
other newspapers
Gore did
win!
Well, I had no idea nuclear tipped missiles, courtesy of Mr.
Taliban, are aimed at us. That would certainly justify all the
expense of NMD (heheheheheheh)
Good diplomacy, fair global trade, good intelliegence, etc (all
low cost, low tech) would've prevented many bin ladins. But that
wouldn't make money for Bush, Inc.
lchic
- 12:09pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10391
of 10657)
'we' .. we were very wee at the conclusion of wwi .. if most of
that 'we' group are long dead .. can they be 'we' or does
monikerfaceted poster mean 'they'.
wbtake1
- 12:09pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10392
of 10657)
The root of the problem, in most cases, is our American way of
life. Are you suggesting we give up our way of life for the few
countries and groups that hate what America stands for? Bin Laden
hates the American way of life and calls all Americans infidels.
Explain how we can reconcile with Bin Laden. After all Islam is
practiced more freely in America then any other place on earth. I
see... you just want all women in America to be covered head to toe
and you want them to be illiterate like the women in Afghanistan
that were ruled by the Talaban and Bin Laden.
So get on that plane and go meet with Bin Laden and the Talaban
and make peace! I'd rather Bomb them from 50,000 feet and have MDA
and other systems to protect use.
wbtake1
- 12:14pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10393
of 10657)
Here is what you left out!
THE DECISION: a split verdict. To the chagrin of Democratic
partisans, the consortium proclaimed Bush still would have won the
apparently limited statewide recount underway last December 9 even
if the U.S. Supreme Court had not swooped in and stopped it.
ifrankel1
- 12:25pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10394
of 10657)
Whether the Treaty has any present validity or not is not the
question. Unilaterally withdrawing in order to persue activity that
is specifically forbidden under the Treaty is a slap in the face to
our allies as well as to other signatories and a direct invitation
to an arms race that nobody wants.
exnewyorker4
- 12:26pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10395
of 10657)
It's clear that America will never be able to make everyone
happy. So why should one bend over backwards for them. Doesn't
Arafat talk out of both sides of his mouth. Didn't that s.o.b. Osama
appears so proud of what he did that he allowed his conversation to
be taped. The world is full of people like that. We must know our
own interests and pursue them. Go Bush, go Rumsfeld, go USA (in this
war)!
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