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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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wordspayy
- 03:12pm Dec 12, 2001 EST (#10360
of 10657)
Hussein isn’t nuts. :Continued
the state.
Just as America is in reaction to its own security environment
all other states will be in reaction to Americas. The largest holder
of nuclear weapons has undertaken a strategy of believing it can and
must survive a nuclear onslaught. For every action a like reaction
will take place. The system (nations are actors within a system)
will attempt to balance itself. The ripples within the worldwide
system of deterrence will break down what has in effect prevented
nations like Iraq from unleashing weapons of mass destruction. The
technology America now envisions to protect itself with proliferate
(it always does) and future encounters with nations like Iraq will
result in consideration of WMD by rational states because the risk
of survival as been increased due to the existence of shielding
technology. Non-survival is no longer an absolute due to the
introduction of shielding methods. This was the very reason SALT I
was envisioned and signed by the two largest holders of nuclear
weapons.
In these times when non state actors are playing an ever
increasing role in the world arena and have in all effect
demonstrated their use of WMD (A Boeing 747 fuel bomb killing
several thousand civilians is a WMD in my mind) Americans need to be
reminded with such non state actors, no rules exist. You cannot
totally thwart those who do not care about their future existence
and survival. Following a pattern that destroys the worldwide
deterrence model in hopes of thwarting the irrational actor only
makes rational states like Iraq, like North Korea stronger. Iraq
rational, North Korea rational? Crazy you say. Is it? Or is it so
right on the mark that I just blew your whole mind.
lchic
- 01:43am Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10361
of 10657)
You miss the point.
The american strategy could be related to commissions for
armament and aerospace salesmen - the strategy does/doesn't come
from the people .. they vote for Capital Hill whereas the policy
comes from the non-elected admin sector.
New policy - new jobs - new thrust in the economy.
logician3
- 06:49am Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10362
of 10657) A supposed god is being pushed down our
throats.
NMD is simply a ruse to increase the military budget for the
Pentagon - it is unneeded, and will deplete funds from many other
programs that are much more essential to our short and long term
survival, particularly the environment, healtcare, SS, etc. etc.
wordspayy
- 10:26am Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10363
of 10657)
logician3 - 07:07am Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10363 of 10363)
Maybe he's just not a believer in the BJP:)
wbtake1
- 10:54am Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10364
of 10657)
Free speech comes with responsibilities! And as for TOTAL free
speech we do not have it here in America nor should we! You can not
slander people, you can not yell FIRE in a crowed room with only one
exit (The movie theater scenario comes to mind) and so on and so
forth.
You do have the right to "criticize King George" as you put it
but before you do so you need to consider this. If you were in the
office he holds and you have to run the biggest economy in the world
and protect 250 plus million people and work 15 to 18 hour days and
deal with all the other crap going on in the world just what would
you do. It is easy to be an armchair president but to actually do
the job is another thing. So when you "criticize King George" think
about it first.
I voted for Bush because I did not want to see the scandals
continue! It was time for a shift in power and I don't agree with
Everything he has done but I am please with his overall job
performance. You can't always get everything you wish for!
BTW- I can't imagine Al Gore in office during these trying times
can you?
I am Glad that Bush is withdrawing from ABM! Times have changed
and the USSR does not exist anymore. I own a company that does
import/export business with Russia and the Ukraine exclusively and
my wife is from Russia. I was one of the few that got to travel
extensively in the USSR before it fell and I can tell you first hand
that Russia and the USSR are not the same countries. Our ABM
agreement was with the USSR and not the government of late. The
bottom line is we have no obligation under ABM because the treaty
was signed under the rule of the USSR and not Russia. It was
Reagan/Bush that said they would continue with ABM for "now". The
now has come.
logician3
- 12:18pm Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10365
of 10657) A supposed god is being pushed down our
throats.
wbtake1
12/13/01 10:54am
NMD is frankly insane, it will destalize the world, and will be
incapable of stopping most actual attacks.
Not to mention, our missile technology causes more accidents than
any attacks it would prevent.
wbtake1
- 12:46pm Dec 13, 2001 EST (#10366
of 10657)
NMD is not insane at all and the research that has gone on to
develop NMD has benefited the human race. There are countless new
medical devices that are saving lives from the NMD research and even
some advances in the computer industry have benefited from the
research.
You tend to look at weapons research in terms of what the USSR
did. They developed all this great technology but it NEVER got
transferred to the day to day lives of the world population. This is
not the case with our weapons R&D. Poor people living in squalor
have benefited in some way shape or form from the R&D of NMD.
Even if NMD is only 60-70% effective it is still better then
NOTHING AT ALL!
I don't see how NMD can harm the relationship that America has
with any country. Even the man who thought the concept up (Pres.
Reagan) offered to give away the technology once it has been
developed. The fact is there are governments that HATE freedom and
will do anything to bring down AMERICA even if it means the
destruction of their own people. We need to protect ourselves
against rouge nations that can fire ICBMs' at use. North Korea and
China are working on ICBMs so we need to defend ourselves. Keep in
mind there is an arms reduction going on with the super powers and
yet China and North Korea and a few others wish to continue to build
ICBMs!
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