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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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mazza9
- 05:31pm Oct 26, 2001 EST (#10249
of 10657) Louis Mazza
From 1900 to 2000 the United States, far and away,gave the most
in the way of blood, sweat and tears to make this a better world. We
fought WWI ostensibly to contravene the Kaiser. Wilson's idea of a
League of Nations was meant to establish the rule of law and the
rights of the individual in political systems. All those European
empires "disappeared" but the US disengaged and look what
happened...WWII.
WWII was fought to complete the WWI realignment. We not only beat
up our enemies we "converted them" In the case of Japan, MacArthur
wrote their constitution and tricked them into becoming Americanized
by introducing ..ahem..Baseball. theyr're a close friend and still
ignored by our foreign policy wonks.
Would anyone care to speculate what would have happened if
Germany and Japan had won!
By 1990 we had won the Cold War and along the way changed much of
the world for the better, whether it's the Green Revolution, the
combating of disease or the ubiquitous CARE packages which have fed
and clothed the world.
LouMazza
ledzeppelin
- 12:44am Oct 28, 2001 EST (#10250
of 10657)
mazza9 - (#10250) Louis Mazza
You claim, that "We fought W.W.I ostensibly to contravene the
Kaiser". That was, No one else, just the US....
You say, you "converted them" You have clearly not visited either
Japan or Germany! Indeed ask yourself why both Japan and Germany are
strongholds for terror groups run by the likes of Osama bin Laden to
equip and raise funds in their fight against imperialism.
You go on to say "Would anyone care to speculate what would have
happened if Germany and Japan had won". Nevertheless, they did win!
No one came and fed the UK for free post WW2 no one came and rebuilt
our cities for free...
As to your remark "Green revolution" I strongly suggest you speak
with your own ecological groups concerning Kyoto, etc, etc.
You say by "1990 we had won the cold war" if that is so, why are
you having to allow Moscow and Beijing to eradicate in Russia the
peoples of Chechnya and in China the peoples of the north-western
region of Xinjiang. Is the cold war won… due to concern in both
Russia and China President Jiang signed a friendship pact with
President Vladimir Putin, based largely on the two governments'
mutual opposition to the US missile defence plans.
If all this is your idea of making the world a better place! I
would hate to visit a world you made worse?
ledzeppelin
- 01:51am Oct 29, 2001 EST (#10251
of 10657)
mazza9 - (#10253) Louis Mazza
You say "I get alittle upset when the US is blamed for all that
has gone wrong and given no credit for the contributions it has
made". Respectfully I have not blamed the US for all that has gone
wrong in the world.
Moreover nor do I feel inclined to praise the gods for "power
lines" that induce Cancer. Nor would I get as excited as you, about
the wonders of "Walmart" whom only enslave suppliers so they exploit
labour ww. "Housing", having been to Zolpho [forgive spelling]
Springs in Florida and to a housing project in St Louis I would not
wish one of your comfortable homes for even the poorest thank you?
All I am saying regarding missile defence is that the US could
spend those billions better on looking after its poor and disabled
rather on a missile defence shield that will not defend it moreover
gives credence to the likes of OBL that the US is an imperialistic
machine....
Furthermore Star Wars does nothing but destabalise. None of us
nor our countries is perfect so lets stop thinking we are.
Whatismore Afganistan is like it is because, no one really
cared..... and a high energy biscuit now, is not the answer! The US
and UK stating whom will govern, blah blah blah... is less than
helpful no one has realised that this is a Islamic state and its not
for Blair or Bush to dictate whom will govern them, indeed we all
forget the geriatric King we all now love was kicked out by his own
family...... Oh well so its ok for democracies to now create
Kingdoms?
gisterme
- 02:31am Oct 30, 2001 EST (#10252
of 10657)
Lou Mazza Wrote ( mazza9
10/24/01 11:14pm ):
"...During that same 20th Century the US walked on the moon,
wiped out polio, small pox and contributed Billions upon Billions to
the needy of the world. I'm not ashamed of the US..."
Well said, Lou!
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