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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 03:20pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10013
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Why can't we get what we need to do done with a few
changes, leaving the things we have working alone whenever we can,
and moving things step by step?
rshowalter
- 03:27pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10014
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We just lost, at one fell swoop, .0028% of the US population,
more than usually well connected to be sure, and some valuable real
estate.
Considering all the terrible things that could happen, we ought
to consider a "difficult" thought experiment. Maybe far fetched. But
with effort thinkable. Suppose we did nothing, other than make
the few incremental changes that we know have a reasonable chance of
working, swallow hard, and go on?
Whatever we actually do, it ought to be better than that.
Now, we're doing a lot worse.
rshowalter
- 03:30pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10015
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
In 1914, a Serbian nut murdered a member of the Austrian royal
family. In a sequence of events that nobody knew how to control,
more than fifty million people died in agony, and a lot of the good
things about Western civilization got snuffed out.
We ought to think hard about avoiding explosive instabilities
like that.
For a number of reasons.
First among them, in my view, the fact that we have nukes around,
with grossly defective controls.
That ought to suffice. But there are other reasons, too.
rshowalter
- 03:32pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10016
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
These instabilies scared the h*ll out of Bill Casey, and he
worked his heart out, explaining to me, as best he understood it,
how serious these problems were. I never trusted Casey too
completely, but he wanted me to believe that the Castro story was
true, and put on a show that convinced me at the time.
rshowalter
- 04:15pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10017
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
September 30, 2001 under the word "INTELLIGENCE"
U.S. Pursued Secret Efforts to Catch or Kill bin Laden by
JAMES RISEN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/30/international/30INTE.html
I think it is worth a moment's time to ask:
Could the folks at the C.I.A. be doing things
backwards -- acting with logic that has a sign error somewhere, so
they sometimes do exactly the wrong things, morally and
operationally?
If these jokers are going to try to kill folks, they should
make damn sure they do it.
How often have they botched things like this?
I think the United States might well be safer if we took the
whole lot of CIA people out and fired them. No covert intelligence
might very well be better than what we've gotten from these
"patriots."
Augustine was clear about that.
rshowalter
- 04:16pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10018
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And how often have they killed unjustly, according to patterns
that do MUCH more harm than good? Pretty often, in my view. I'm not
alone in that opinion.
rshowalter
- 04:18pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10019
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
There would, however, be massive unemployment in whole extended
neighborhoods in the greater DC metropolitan area. A whole
subculture would have to redirect their skills to jobs they could
actually do, on subject matter they could decently check.
rshowalter
- 04:31pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10020
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The C.I.A. is now, and has long been, a massive lie and rumor
factory that has misled us, and done an astonishing amount to
alienate other peoples, and make them have contempt rather than
respect for the United States of America.
rshowalter
- 04:34pm Sep 30, 2001 EST (#10021
of 10023) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If the US wanted to make a brilliant public relations
coup, warming the hearts of the whole world, and opening lines of
communication that are closed to us, all over the world, it could do
no better than closing down the CIA, firing the people in it (and
many of their opposite numbers in the military) and working in
clear .
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