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poetry that strikes the imagination -- or turns some people away? To
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rshowalt
- 05:05am Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6222
of 6739)
Has anyone written poetry that anyone here remembers, or likes,
about nuclear weapons, nuclear war, mass murder by bombs? Or are
these matters unfeelable, dark beyond dreaming? It is a hole in my
background - I can recall little or no such poetic response to the
new, larger, more organized, dirtier holocaust-planners and
organizers.
Can anyone explain to the poetically connected part of me how it
is possible to think of nuclear weapons and NOT have big emotional
responses?
Or say in poetry, what must happen to a mind, or what a mind must
be like, to "think about the unthinkable" -- without emotion ?
Have artists adressed this? Especially, have they adressed this
in direct ways that many people can understand? If a proper horror
were connected to nuclear weapons, and people willing to use them,
the damned things would be easier to get rid of.
(((
Bomb-making nuts would be easier to police, as well.
Poetry touches the heart, and connects to the logical, stark
aspects of the mind, more directly than other art. It may take
poetry (rather than, for example, humor) to get people to see, and
remember, and think about, what these "valued parts of our defensive
posture" are. The "unthinkable" must become thinkable, without being
stripped of moral and emotional existence. A job, it seems to me,
for poets (and writers of songs) rather than logicians.
*****
Did the Nazis associated with the holocaust, especially those
close to the killing, write poetry? Has anybody read such poetry, if
it exists, and if so, what is it like? Could a poet, with her
emotional connections to the world, sink to mass murder of
strangers? If so, what poetry would that twisting experience wrench
from them?
jemoyer
- 08:53am Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6223
of 6739) life is not meant to be a slow form of suicide
rshowalt
9/21/00 5:05am
There is an entire genre of political poetry that is very
difficult to pull off well. Nazim Hikmet is one example of many.
Wilfred Owen's poems from WWI are excellent. Carolyn Forche comes to
mind, her book The Country Between Us. Lynn Emmanuel has
written some interesting things about growing up in such a culture
in her book Hotel Fiesta. Another local poet named Peter
Oresick (o-RESS-ick) wrote a long poem in the form of a chapbook
entitled An American Peace, (Shadow Press, Minneapolis,1985),
which addresses the issue you raise. He describes his childhood and
simple life in a small town near Pittsburgh and what would happen if
a nuclear explosion occured. He writes about his religious training,
philosophy, and the awareness and horror of possible nuclear
annihilation. He was friends with the anti-nuclear activists Molly
Rush an Daniel Berrigan, among others, who in 1980 banged the
nose-cones of nuclear warheads with hammers and poured human blood
all around to make a symbolic statement. Here's a short excerpt:
We have our own hope, structured into our genes. For ages
it has talked to us and kept us on the narrow ridge of
faith, as we sat by the rivers of Babylon; as we sat in the
Dark Ages; as we sat in the stone cathedrals; as we sat in the
concrete libraries. We heard it in the rushing and swirling of
our blood, in the atoms rotating, the galaxy rotating, the
great rhythm programmed into us during the morning of the
world. It was a matter of time before we'd walk through the
shafts of sunlight and shadow, to sit down and pass a
hand across our heavy, thick forheads. It brought us to
consciousness and to these instruments where we can see
matter's purple flush, see the glowing within it, a presence
that pulls us in relieving the terror and the long
lonliness. Four billion years to reach here. Let's rest
awhile. Let us sit.
Peter Oresick
geneva9
- 09:06am Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6224
of 6739) "It is my soul that calls upon my name./How
silver-sweet lovers' tongues by night,/Like softest music to
attending ears."
ginger:
Loved your poems, especially morning and estranged.
Did think the images in the first poem nemesis were a bit
confusing. You have these adult, sharp images: dazzling as
diamonds, eyes glazed with ice, tin roof heart with the contrast
of the cuddly puppy images of a rubber ball, shaggy dog story,
matchbox cars that seem to me to war a bit with each
other. I like the images per se, don't know if they belong together.
I appreciate your comments on God in January, you are so
dead-on that I need to chip some more away and it really hadn't
occurred to me!
rshowalt
- 09:19am Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6225
of 6739)
Wow Moyer. Thanks!
wolverine137
- 05:00pm Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6226
of 6739) Disco before death.
rshowalt:
There is a poem by a Japanese poet which excoriates the United
States for using atomic weapons, but I can't remember the name since
I read it probably 20 years ago. It is blank verse, and really a
hatchet job. Perhaps someone recalls...if I run across it I'll share
the information.
featherstone2
- 05:24pm Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6227
of 6739)
nuclear poetry
There was a very powerful poem on the bombing of Hiroshima in the
latest Poetry Nation. That may be a Canadian rag. I don't
have a copy myself.
featherstone2
- 10:12pm Sep 21, 2000 EST (#6228
of 6739)
rshowalt
9/21/00 5:05am
rshowalt
Have artists adressed this? Especially, have they adressed
this in direct ways that many people can understand? The
closest thing that comes to mind is Picasso's Guernica if I'm
not mistaking the title. It depicts the horrors inflicted on the
innocent, human and animal, by bombing raids.
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