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flyingvprod
- 02:26am Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6229
of 6739) If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man.-
Kubrick
Here is one that is a little on the optimistic side. It isn't
Maya Angelou, but it isn't too bad:
So Many Roads
Ninety-seven ways to get to the same
place More really If one bombs, I find another, and another
Overcoming one obstacle after another Like a hurdler
Every word of wisdom bounces through my brain If I scatter
enough seeds Something will grow Gotta get anyplace from here
Step by step by step Everyday is one less that I have
The clock ticks louder and louder One door after another
closes I get a peek and it slams I wait and wait and wait
Working for a carrot that I never get Next week, next month,
next year, But I aint done yet Not I Still believe in the
American dream In good in life In love and happiness In
rewards for the good I have learned and will learn With each
passing day Every night I kneel and pray
T.L. Verley
flyingvprod
- 02:45am Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6230
of 6739) If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man.-
Kubrick
by the way, I think that one was published in like 1992, in an
anthology titled Journey of the Mind.
rmdig
- 04:01pm Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6231
of 6739) "Sir, I have found you an argument; but I am not
obliged to find you an understanding." Samuel Johnson
rshowalt - I stumbled upon this rather curious reflection not
long ago. You might find it interesting.
"Reflections on the Atom Bomb"
They asked me what I thought of the atomic bomb. I said I had not
been able to take any interest in it.
I like to read detective and mystery stories. I never get enough
of them but whenever one of them is or was about death rays and
atomic bombs I never could read them. What is the use, if they are
really as destructive as all that there is nothing left and if there
is nothing there nobody to be interested and nothing to be
interested about. If they are not as destructive as all that then
they are just a little more or less destructive than other things
and that means that in spite of all destruction there are always
lots left on this earth to be interested or to be willing and the
thing that destroys is just one of the things that concerns the
people inventing it or the people starting it off, but really nobody
else can do anything about it so you have to just live along like
always, so you see the atomic [bomb] is not at all interesting, not
any more interesting than any other machine, and machines are only
interesting in being invented or in what they do, so why be
interested. I never could take any interest in the atomic bomb, I
just couldn't any more than in everybody's secret weapon. That it
has to be secret makes it dull and meaningless. Sure it will destroy
a lot and kill a lot, but it's the living that are interesting not
the way of killing them, because if there were not a lot left living
how could there be any interest in destruction. Alright, that is the
way I feel about it. They think they are interested about the atomic
bomb but they really are not not any more than I am. Really not.
They may be a little scared, I am not so scared, there is so much to
be scared of so what is the use of bothering to be scared, and if
you are not scared the atomic bomb is not interesting. Everybody
gets so much information all day long that they lose their common
sense. They listen so much that they forget to be natural. This is a
nice story.
Gertrude Stein, 1946
wolverine137
- 06:07pm Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6232
of 6739) Disco before death.
featherstone2:
Guernica is the ultimate antiwar statement! The fascists bombing
a simple people for the heck of it. As Kurtz said, "The horror."
Also, Lord Jim.
bdhpoet1
- 06:26pm Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6233
of 6739) ...
Wolverine, we look at a lot of the same stuff.
I suggest "The Bomb and the General" by Umberto Eco & Eugenio
Carmi, a children's book of poetry and pictures.
flyingvprod
- 07:56pm Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6234
of 6739) If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man.-
Kubrick
The Scorpions put out a song a few years back, about the Russians
loving their children too. I think it helped clear up a lot of
confusion, and helped to put some things into perspective a little
at the end of the cold war.
bdhpoet1
- 08:19pm Sep 22, 2000 EST (#6235
of 6739) ...
"And so the atoms decided to rebel against the general.
One night, without making a sound, they stole silently out
of the bombs and hid in the cellar.
-from "The Bomb and the General" Harcourt Brace Jonanovich
rshowalt
- 05:20am Sep 23, 2000 EST (#6236
of 6739)
You guys are giving me hope, and making me wish I could know, and
feel, some of the wonderful things you know and feel.
All it will take is a clear perception of what these weapons are,
what they do, how unstable the controls are, and how ordinarily
human the controllers are. Maybe MTV videos, poetry, sharp questions
to pols:
Like:
"Sir, what is your position on the practicality and morality
of first strikes with nuclear weapons?"
If the pols had to answer, and concerned people listened to the
answer, a lot of good might come.
The technical means to get rid of nuclear weapons, worldwide,
forever, are within reach, and not even difficult. It is minds and
hearts that have to change, in the United States most of all. If the
"glory" and "neatness" of our nuclear weapons system was fully,
clearly understood (including the social system behind it, complete
with the people) then disarmament would be not only possible, but
quick and certain. Artists, who touch emotion and perception, have
the decisive power here, if they get interested and choose to use
it. I'm hopeful. Could the Pentagon and the CIA stand up to the full
fury of poets, MTV, and the big parts of the whole artistic
community, coming at them, in good order, from many directions,
jiving them, making the "nuclear certainties" clear? Not a chance !
They'd go down in order. And the nuclear weapons would, too. It
would be a beautification of the world, and make sex a more hopeful
enterprise.
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